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4.2 Unleashed available

April 03, 2009 — BarryK
The file 'puppy-unleashed-core-4.2.tar.gz' is available here:

If you are new to Puppy, this file is for developers who want to build their own Puppy-based distribution. So, not of interest to users. To find out more, read this:

Here's another intro page on the 'devx' file that I mentioned in my previous post:

For Puppy-watchers who read this blog regularly, a surprise is on the way. I was working on it, then the last couple of days helped the 4.2 guys with some underlying technical aspects of Unleashed, devx and package naming/conflicts. That's done, so expect the surprise in a day or two.


Kernel switching
Username: Raffy
Puppy's easy rebuild of itself is one of its magic tricks. Now with Woof, the possibility of switching kernel (to use other distro's) is very close. Will be waiting for the big surprise. :)

Forum seems to be down
Username: smil99
"This is off topic but needs some urgent attention. It seems the puppylinux forum is down. Can't connect from my end (Japan) since this morning 2009.3.3 The following message greets me upon clicking the link. "Failed to Connect The connection was refused when attempting to contact"

For - um?
Username: Sage
"The board has just come back up this morning (evening in Oz?). The hiatus is utterly unsatisfactory. And that is not necessarily an indictment of John (but it might be). Any idea just how much IPR on the breed resides up there?! Who does it belong to? And lots of other questions needing hyper-urgent consideration by everybody with a interest in the mutt and his progeny. With Puppy still resting at No.2 in Ladislav's table, any glitch like this is unacceptable. Answers? Not many. But if I were in BK's/ WD's, and all the other heavyweights with so much of their effects invested, shoes I'd want to stop ALL cosy coding hobbies and address the future of the project's intercourse arrangements [b]TODAY[/b]. Only one man's opinion, but I'd want to resurrect and make the old BK Forum the main source of wisdom with the entire archives of the Murga board ceded to it, at least for reference. A tele-conference amongst the key Oz proponents, perhaps? For some of us, The Murga Forum is the only point of contact with d/l links for derivatives, contact with notable personalities, historical records, discussions, disputes, trouble-shooting, etc. If all this were lost, it would be a mini tsunami. Ironically, there is a bunch of advice that transcends the distro, itself. The value of the resource is considerable. Now is the time to avoid potential meltdown. Things have, with the best of intentions, been allowed to drift. Go on - ignore me, again! I don't speak the coding language of most visitors to this blog, but I've seen a lot of things this last half century, so I know what's what in information dissemination.

Puppy is driving now.
Username: raymundo dionicio
"John Murga is a man of thrust. He will do what has to be done. ...'Go on - ignore me, again'... Sage, cheer up, please do not play that role.

Username: Pizzasgood
"A group of people without at least one guy heralding the coming doom is a group of people I don't want to be a part of for very long. Groups without those people become overconfident, which tends to lead to annihilation. Starting tonight I'm going to begin maintaining my own weekly backup of the forum's database, because if something happened to John, we probably wouldn't find out until [i]after[/i] the forum was taken down by his host.

Username: Raffy
"Yes, John is a man to trust, and Sage is one worth listening to. :) (I forgot - this blog does not accept Opera, so I failed to post here last night. Was it because Opera identifies itself as IE?)

Username: BarryK
"Ah yes, the tendency to become complacent and not backup forums ...and, ahem, blogs... Regarding forums, we do have the forum. How's that going? I admit that I rarely go there. ...perhaps that's the fundamental problem of having more than one forum, we all lurk on one only. Is there a need for a developer's only forum, like I used to have? One thing I have been enjoying is total freedom form violations of my site, and I do fear introducing a forum, especially WordPress. If only there was one guaranteed to be inviolable...

Gone on for too long
Username: cthisbear
"Barry: Sage and Pizzasgood are right to be concerned citizens. Measured but drastic steps need to be taken to secure our forum. We are not here to criticise you or John for your hospitable efforts now or in the past. But different times and situations call for a long term solution. A working solution. Funny! that on the forum we advocate backing up data; and yet our forum is beset by a plague of disconnections and vulnerabilities. Just look at ttuuxxx and his hours of lost data recently. When it's gone it's gone. Let's not sit in the dark on this. I'm sure that you are quietly pleased with the results of Puppy 4.2 and that it has reached number 2 on 7 day results. Possibly not perfect but a bloody great release. WhoDo has been tested but has delivered. Our whinges and whines have ended up mostly as a win. The entire community of testers, contributors and developers, behind the scenes advisors etc, have delivered a platform and OS that will only get better. In their glory days the St George Rugby League team motto was that "they weren't a team of champions, just the champion team" This Puppy reminds me of that. Puppy has become bigger than our combined efforts, your marvellous coding, the little sniggers and infights with others on the forum. Puppy lives and breathes today. Today he now has no one master and yet he is loved by many friends. Give him a bone and not the boot. Have a quiet word with John for some real fixes to the board. Some new admins with limited access in Australia may also help. As often suggested by Sage. Pizzasgood..great that you will backup the forum. All power to you. Regards Chris.

Backups - no dice :(
Username: Pizzasgood
"The forum has several modifications applied to it. One of them involves some major changes to the base system, and adds a pile of features not supported in normal phpbb 2.x forums. Unfortunately, that modification also removes the built-in "backup" feature that admins and moderators would normally be able to use in a phpbb forum without having direct access to the server. From what I understand, they found that feature unreliable for large forums because PHP would timeout before it could finish. So that means my plan to back it up won't work. IMHO, it always would have been a good idea to give Barry the spare keys. Now it looks like an even better idea.

Forum deloading
Username: Raffy
"One way to deload the forum is disable the email subscriptions to threads. But on the front page, make the "View posts since last visit" prominent. I can help in the backup every Saturday morning - that means Friday evening to midnight in the Americas, and just wakeup time for Europe (but it's a Saturday, so they don't hurry out of bed). My time is the same as Barry's, and the University bandwidth is wide open on a Saturday morning.

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