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Wary Puppy 0.5.1

September 20, 2010 — BarryK
This is an experimental "retro" Puppy. Built from the same T2 core packages as Quirky, except for older Xorg (7.3+) and older kernel (in this build,

The 2.6.32.x kernel is the latest that is designated as having "long term support", meaning that kernel developers will be upgrading it for a considerable time into the future.

The focus for Wary is old hardware. This special build with Xorg 7.3+ also has the older i810 driver from Xorg 7.2, and some latest drivers. It is those latest drivers that I would like to get feedback on, in particular for Nvidia and ATI.

This build does not have the commercial Nvidia Xorg driver, just the latest open source 'nv' driver -- which works great on my Nvidia card. Not so good with my Radeon card though (ATI includes Radeon, R128 and Mach64 hardware)

One great thing, this Wary does have the Xvesa driver to fall back on.

Get Wary from here:

To find out about Wary-related developments, please read my recent blog posts.

Another point to note: although the packages were originally compiled in T2, this Wary now builds totally from PET packages.


SM rendering is bad
Username: BarryK
Recent versions of SeaMonkey have exhibited some serious rendering problems. 01micko's site renders as totally scrambled:

It is due to Intel driver
Username: BarryK
"Well, that's interesting. My laptop has Intel video. I changed to Xvesa driver and 01micko's site renders OK! Alright, I'm going to compile some other versions of the Intel driver to see if this can be fixed. Wary currently has xf86-video-intel version 2.3.2, with patches from Lenny Debian.

SM2.xx Xvesa Only for O1Micko site
Username: ozsouth
"Posting from Wary 051, old Toshiba laptop - tried SM2.04 & 2.01 - 01mickos site garbled in both with Xorg, but fine with Xvesa. Xorg OK in Quirky 1.2.

Username: BarryK
"wombat01, Oops, it is supposed to have Gnome-mplayer, somehow left that out.

wary 5.1 problems
Username: gjuhasz
"I use Xvesa under VirtualBox. Maybe this is the reason why I cannot configure non-US keyboard. Neither mplayer nor ffmpeg start - report missing libs. pupTelly does not play streams - maybe due to the same reasons. Demo files in /usr/examples/video cannot be played. I installed gxine but it plays only the mpg file from the video examples. Missing libschroedinger package reported. Background image can be changed via backdrop only. Pwallpaper does not work.

my site
Username: 01micko
"Hmmm.. that's weird I'm using Seamonkey 2.06 in Lupu, as I nearly always do and no probs, even edited that page with Composer after initially building it with Kompozer. Downloading Wary shortly Cheers

same problem - but
Username: FeodorF
"Hi Barry, hi Micko I am using wary-030 with SM-206-pet(wary) and there is the same problem. But if I start wary like this: F2 puppy pfix=ram then there is no problem to get onto mickos page. regards FeodorF

Console Bug
Username: perthie
"When I open a console and press the up-arrow key to see previous commands, I get a window for PDF-Writer-Save-As! It looks like Wary has been built with the "classic" SAMBA client tools and not the new "tng" package. This is a good thing, as all the usual functions work, including both new CUPS smb backend scripts. If Wary becomes the standard retro version, there will be users who need it for their older hardware, but want to run a newer browser like Firefox. In which case, libdbus and libdbus-glib are required. Perhaps they could be included by default? I just dropped in Debian packages and Firefox worked.

Console Bug #2
Username: perthie
"This turns out to be a video driver issue. If I install Xvesa, I get the bug. Also, I don't get the initial welcome screen. If I install Xorg, I don't get the bug. However, I can't use 1024x768 resolution with my ATI Radeon Xpress 200G card under Xorg. The screen just goes black.

a bug ?
Username: wuxiandianzi
"bash-3.00# locale locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_TIME="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE=en_US LC_MONETARY="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_NAME="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_ALL= bash-3.00#

Wary Puppy 0.5.1
Username: ttuuxxx
"Hi Barry I was reading the user responses to this release and looks like it has a few quirks in it, Maybe a quick update to Wary Puppy 0.5.2 might be in order, I have the next 5 days off work and if you release a update I'll have a good look at it, I'm really impressed with the overall size, You almost have it at the 100MB limit once again. I was thinking that puppy 6 could be compiled from scratch to get rid of the extra gnome deps that the bigger puppies have have like lucid, 130MB puppy is way over bloated, I have downloaded nor will I. Well not at this point 2.14X and 4 series both still work really well. puppy 4.0 was 87MB puppy 5.0 is 128mb, 41MB larger almost 50%, I personally think we can do better. I'm with you on the use of a older mature kernel and older Xorg, This really reduces the overall size of the distro, As for puppies future version 6, I would like to see Wary as puppy 6 default and Quirky as the big brother. If this is also the path you decide on, I would be dedicated to start compiling extra pets and support for version 0.5.2 when released. ttuuxxx

Go guys
Username: Raffy
"Go, guys !!! Gonna have a pup-xxx.sfs and pupsave again, can't we?

same problem - work around
Username: FeodorF
"Work around for Seamonkey-206 If the display mode is set up to 16-bit color depth instead of 24-bit color depth, then you access mickos page.

Username: james c
" Fresh frugal install of Wary 0.5.1 on my old P3 test box.Default SeaMonkey browser,using xorg, and 01micko's site renders fine. Intel 810 onboard graphics.

Multimedia problem resolved
Username: gjuhasz
"I got a PM (from aarf, thanks) that called my attention to the first post at I installed mplayer svn-31792 (post 1.0rc3) pet package. It resolved all multimedia issues in Wary-051. Xvesa is still problematic in spite of -kb option added. I thing it would be better if the user could select between forced Xvesa or forced vesa.

Re Pwallpaper
Username: BarryK
"[i]Background image can be changed via backdrop only. Pwallpaper does not work.[/i] Fixed. Yes, Pwallpaper is broken, have changed to Nathan's Wallpaper Setter.

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