site  contact  subhomenews

Precise: Python moved to devx

July 10, 2013 — BarryK
Precise has the Python interpreter in the main .iso, and libpython in the devx. Earlier puppies had all of Python in the devx.

The "minimal python" that is in the main .iso weighs in at about 15MB uncompressed. Oh wow, I am not at all happy about that.

I moved it from the devx as some apps from the Ubuntu repo want it. On the other hand, libpython is wanted by 'gdb' which is in the devx.

Anyway, I have moved all of Python back to the devx.


Apps that need Python
Username: BarryK
These apps in the main .iso want Python: [i]gconf2 gnumeric-plugins-extra[/i]

ARM processing
Username: GCMartin
"I think I see where you may be headed with your current announcements. So I offer some NEWS: 64bit ARM processors will start showing up in systems and tablets at the end of 2013 and throughout 2014. This will accompany larger on-board RAM sizing. Hope this helps and supports your direction(s).

Gnumeric without python
Username: BarryK
"I have compiled Gnumeric in Precise pup without python bindings. Also without Gnome bindings. PET (2.8M): Note that gnumeric 1.12.x requires GTK3. Note also, I am strongly leaning toward abandoning GTK3. For Precise at least, in the future I might introduce Qt5-based apps. So Precise will have GTK2 and Qt5 apps. At least a couple of reasons: The Qt developers are much more "with it" regarding embedded and touch-interface. Most of the new projects, such as Ubuntu Touch are using Qt. Also, Qt apps can inherit the current GTK2 theme. This is so good, means nothing to do when we migrate to using Qt apps. So, I am on the lookout for good Qt5 apps... P.S. I read recently that LXDE is being ported to Qt.

LXDE & Xfce
Username: Sage
"LXDE is presently attracting much attention, but, in use, I find it far less intuitive, flexible and a bunch of other adjectives, than Xfce. The latter also makes transition from you-know-whatOS a lot more comfortable. There already exist a few Xfce Puppy projects and P-capable releases including Carolina, Lighthouse and Legacy from which to draw expertise. The speed and overall inventory of Xfce seem, at least subjectively, more favourable. Notwithstanding, Xfce-based Pups are a lot bigger, so these comments only relate to factors of LXDE & Xfce comparison. Where that leaves the relevance -if any - of LXDE & Xfce to Qt & GTK is not my department. Hey ho, another fine hot day in prospect in Blighty - ideal for the Ashes retention battle.

Reducing size to meet a future objective
Username: GCMartin
"Hi Barry. I think I may be looking over the horizon a bit, but shouldn't your new distro have JAVA? And has there been a little thought for how to reference or add JAVA to an apps inventory in the upcoming release(s). Several members have contributed a list of apps which provide capability to any PUP with a Java Virtual Machine. [url=][b]Their offerings for understanding is here.[/b]

Re Java
Username: BarryK
"No, I don't want Java. It is the basis of Android, but I don't think it is the way to go. I have experience with Java a long time ago, in an embedded system. Ubuntu Touch is a good example where they have taken the good stuff out of Android but left behind Java.

qt apps
Username: scsijon
"I built a qt4 apps puppy back with qtpy a few years ago before starting mage2 and have a lot of apps I built and tested from then. Some were good, some horific to use. They will need recompiling for qt5 though, so they are no good as is. So I guess my question is, what packages do you want to replace and i'll see what I eventually used back then and offer some workable equivalents. regards ps. just thinking (for once)before hitting 'the' button, there was quite a discussion in the qtpy thread on apps, maybe of use. Also a number of others run qt apps on various builds, maybe worth a new topic on murga-linux to gain a variation of sugestions.

Tags: puppy