4.1retro-beta uploaded

Get it from here:

This has the kernel, and is conservatively configured for maximum compatibility on old hardware.

I did not put in the i810_drv.so from Puppy 3.01, as that is Xorg 7.2, whereas Puppy4 has Xorg 7.3, and the intel_drv.so is supposed, it seems, to superceed the i810_drv.so module. All my hardware works fine with the intel_drv module, so I'm reluctant to put in an older driver.

I have put in both Pppoeconf and Roaring Penguin PPPOE. But possibly only one will remain in the final. Ideally, I would like to get Pppoeconf debugged.

The devx_407.sfs will work, just rename it to devx_408.sfs.

Posted on 11 Sep 2008, 7:50


Posted on 11 Sep 2008, 9:09 by GeoW
No Full Poweroff

4.1 beta retro

good download, Puppy runs

Haven't seen full shutdown since
406 Conservative

More results soon.


Posted on 11 Sep 2008, 14:26 by BarryK
Re: shutdown
GeoW, it's the same kernel as 3.01 and 4.00 -- if they shutdown for you and 4.1retro doesn't then I am extremely surprised.

Posted on 11 Sep 2008, 14:54 by BarryK
4.1retro-beta feedback
Lobster has started a feedback thread:


Posted on 11 Sep 2008, 15:42 by ANOSage
Great time for refinements?
GeoW is correct - this version refuses to poweroff on SiS chipsets, (and some laptops?), like most of the recent versions except 'conservative'. This is an irritant to so many contributors to the Forum that it really is high time to get it fixed.
Bloat continues to be evident by the extended boot time of this liveCD. Trim out some fat, eg calculators! Offer a single wallpaper - man on bike would be excellent. Etc.
Lots of other tiny, but non-operational stuff would improve the user experience. Personally, I find the double entry for US k/b, reported years ago, offensive! Individual savings may be small but there are so many that can be made that the sum total would be significant.
Well past time to delete the appalling GXine in favour of Xine (cf BoxPup) whatever the coding penalties. No prejudice on my part - just take a look at other fora - nobody likes GXine.
Once OceanMonster is replaced by Opera things will really swing, as amply demonstrated by several derivatives.

Posted on 11 Sep 2008, 16:16 by Martin
Will test Intel
I'll give this Puppy a run on the machines below, see what the intel driver does..

Armada M700


Posted on 11 Sep 2008, 18:04 by Dougal
All this continuing shutdown issue reminded me of something:
With the Classmate and the 2.6.24 kernel I use, I sometimes have a shutdown problem, where it says "Requesting system poweroff" and then hangs. However, hitting "enter" will release it and it will go on to shutdown.
Any chance it is the same kind of problem?

Posted on 11 Sep 2008, 18:49 by GeoW

No. The only Puppy ever to do a successful
poweroff ( without acpi=force ) on this desktop
is 406 Conservative. ( ACPI=force causes strange
side effects. )

Intel D850MV, P4@1.5GHz, 256MB PC800 RDRAM, 16G HD/w 1 NTFS partition


Posted on 11 Sep 2008, 19:18 by GeoW


I just rebooted into 4.1BetaRetro ( frugal )
to double check. The last line I get is:
"Power down.", with a flashing cursor on the
next line.

At that point, nothing i do on the keyboard has
any effect. My only option is the power switch
on the box.

I will try any suggestions and report the
results, or look through /tmp/bootsysinit.log
if you tell me what to look for.


Posted on 11 Sep 2008, 19:21 by sml
Don't forget the version with the newest kernel :)

Posted on 11 Sep 2008, 19:32 by ANOSage
"At that point, nothing I do on the keyboard has
any effect. My only option is the power switch
on the box. "

That's what we all see! This is an almost unique feature of Puppy; I've only ever seen it on one other distro (can't remember which) out of hundreds I've tested.

Posted on 11 Sep 2008, 22:12 by Dromena
No internet!
I have just tested the 4.1 retro beta on my Asus eee 900. Sound works (a relief after the PupEEE B 4) but both cable and wireless internet does not work. How do I solve this manually?

Posted on 14 Sep 2008, 17:47 by Martin
Intel video update
Gave Puppy a spin on the machines below:

Compaq iPaq desktop
Compaq D510 USDT
Compaq D530
Compaq Armada M700
Dell GX260

Xorg works fine everywhere except for the Compaq D510 USDT. (Vesa is OK). Funny thing is that my Dell GX260 has the same Intel Chipset (845G) - and there it works fine.