I will not be designing a new theme for 4.1, nor using anyone else's theme. However, Lobster has suggested that there should be some differentiation from 4.00, and he suggested the guy-on-the-bike background instead of the Antartctic/Arctic scene.

Here it is:

...what do you reckon? Down to /usr/share/backgrounds then try it. Should I use that for 4.1?

Posted on 12 Sep 2008, 9:19


Posted on 12 Sep 2008, 9:32 by happypuppy
guy on the bike
The background is perfectly fine for 4.1.The only thing I don't like about that pic is the extremely low resolution.
It would be nice if you could upload a high-res version of this background (2500x1600 or 2048x1536) [not upscaled],so I can use it on a 30" LCD or a 22" CRT.

Posted on 12 Sep 2008, 9:48 by Alucinary
I have a feeling its been mentioned by someone else somewhere else, but how about once you've decided on the background to use (the bike is ok for me :)) then remove all the rest and hence save more space?

Posted on 12 Sep 2008, 9:57 by growler
On ya bike!
I am not sure if there is any subtle reference to your retirement in this photo Barry? :-)

Posted on 12 Sep 2008, 10:00 by Subito Piano
As nice as the pic may be, i'm not sure it gives the right impression. Puppy is done very professionally and i think the graphics should reflect that. This picture has a rather "snapshot" feel to it, don't you think?

Posted on 12 Sep 2008, 10:56 by BarryK
Right mpression
Yes, what we really are targetting here are the first-time users of Puppy, and they would not know that the theme is identical to 4.00.
For everyone else upgrading, they are already "hooked" on Puppy, so don't need the initial visual impression -- and they can just go ahead and put in any background they want.

Posted on 12 Sep 2008, 11:57 by dogone
first impression
I agree. The background image should be thematic, conveying something that is "Puppy". Puppywallpaper achieves this very simply. The background is the *first thing* people will notice about Puppy. The goal should be a very positive first impression. Thereafter, it's up to the user.

The Arctic image is beautiful, but does not relate. Guy on a bike is interesting but again, does not relate. When in doubt, try Google Images. I will right now.

Posted on 12 Sep 2008, 12:30 by lobster
Is Puppy just another distro
How many distros put a guy on a bike as their background image? They would rather have a bland and non memorable image. However that cycle image IS Puppy. An iceberg could be anything bland and sinkable.

You have to think in terms of psychology. An image may be changed or if innocuous put up with.

Puppy thrives on change. 4.1 is different. So be different.

It gives critical reviewers something irrelevant to focus on. It encourages users to change or customise. How do I change that, is something to be encouraged . . . for everyone . . .

Posted on 12 Sep 2008, 13:35 by ANOSage

Didn't the Cons. use pictures of icebergs in their ineffectual warning about A.I.D.S.?

Posted on 12 Sep 2008, 14:05 by Raffy
small screen
That background is fine on UMPCs (small screen), in fact, the color contrast is striking on those small devices.

Here's an idea about possible alternative (a picture of the stars), that can go well with black/grey theme:

Posted on 12 Sep 2008, 14:47 by exProphecy
Orange Puppy
Personally, I really love the Orange Puppy theme. I wish you'd leave the background in default.

I believe this was a great theme.

Posted on 12 Sep 2008, 14:52 by metre9dmt
Australian Outback
Me thinks the man on bike provide a nice background. I do suggest that a more Australian theme should be given showing the natural wonders and beauty of the Australian be featured (e.g Ayers Rock, Aboriginal art). How about a theme on the Royal Show (if I remember it right)where Barry is involve.

Just a thought

Posted on 12 Sep 2008, 20:49 by zygo
I always change the backgroud to 'in flight' = freedom.

You could go all abstract

Posted on 12 Sep 2008, 21:40 by Leon
I agree with Lobster.
Guy-on-the-bike is the nicest Puppy background yet.
It has warm natural colors and goes well with default theme.

Posted on 12 Sep 2008, 23:14 by WN2A
Looks Great! Yes, that works fine!

Posted on 12 Sep 2008, 23:54 by dogone
National Geographic
National Geographic has many excellent photos available, including 'wallpaper' sized. Browse them here:

Posted on 13 Sep 2008, 2:09 by smog
Frankly the guy on the bike is a MAJOR step back to the days before Puppy 4.

It looks amateurish compared to the iceberg. The icons don't show up well against the background colours and it makes the desktop look disjointed and poorly thought out.

The iceberg fits brilliantly with the other colours of the icons and the rest of the desktop and gives a professional and cohesive impression that really lifts the quality of the product. I have always thought the iceberg was one of the best new features of P4 because of the perceptoin of quality it introduced.

Just my opinion though!!

Posted on 13 Sep 2008, 3:04 by nic2109
More Wallpapers
I agree that the guy on the bike looks a bit low-res and "snapshott-ish". The National Geographic site mentioned by dogone has some nice pictures but not much choice of resolution (at least in the ones I browsed). For another selection of free wallpapers, each with several resolutions try

You'd have to pay for the highest quality, but I've always found the free ones to be perfectly acceptable.

Posted on 13 Sep 2008, 4:04 by Sit Heel Speak
Text labelling please...
IMHO, the default wallpaper should always identify the OS textually as Puppy Linux and show the version number. It would be even nicer if it shows whether-or-not-SMP, whether-or-not-SCSI, and gcc and glibc version numbers, but, hey, I don't want to ask too much...

The way I have found produces sharpest text, is to load the .jpg into Corel Draw on a 100-inch-square working sheet, type the text off-sheet, import the text through the Clipboard into Corel Paint, sharpen it in Corel Paint and then re-import into the Corel Draw working version, then re-export to .jpg and use IrfanView to resize this (20-100 MB)new .jpg down to my monitor's width-height ratio size of 1024x768. The result is superior to what I can achieve with Open Office Draw, but still not razor-sharp. If someone knows how to produce a wallpaper with truly sharp text, I would appreciate knowing the secret.

Posted on 13 Sep 2008, 4:52 by dogone
Candidate images
I've posted four candidate background images to the forum. Take a look.

Posted on 13 Sep 2008, 5:33 by gyle
Cosmetic vs symbolic
Cosmetic is good but good isn't enough.
Can cosmetic be pregnant with symbolic ?
To go further, anywhere, we need symbolic.
Look at the picture with the two pegs the BiKe, alone, with huge charges and a balance to preserve, overstep.
Alone means "all one", like integer, integrity.
Limits are not the end of the road.
The community is now on the bike and BK is the hidden photographer.

Posted on 13 Sep 2008, 12:10 by foo
mm m
As elsewhere - man/bike is good for human/tech and the symbiosis, sum driving as whole more than parts together. With gyle on the symbolic and dynamics. The scenic on 4 left me cold, no thought beyond scene - man/bike subtle as a parable .. a good signature for the first day if not beyond (plus it goes well with brown gradient *or* stardust, sepia *or* cool icons). I can imagine a 2nd change of back to Ayers in the moonlight with silvery cirrus clouds high )

Posted on 13 Sep 2008, 12:17 by disciple
The bike is great, although I haven't tried it with the default icons in 4.0 (which I can't stand, just like the default JWM and GTK themes :) )
Somehow it just "feels" a lot more like Puppy than other recent backgrounds - the random iceberg and the gull and I think I remember a castle and a beach or something...

Posted on 13 Sep 2008, 23:11 by magerlab
suggestion for a wallpaper
i'd suggest a wallpapaper with Michael Phelps or Usain Bolt, the fastest men on the planet!
puppy is the fastest linux :)

Posted on 14 Sep 2008, 4:09 by puppymike
Desktop wallpaper
Keep the Puppy 4.00 background

Posted on 14 Sep 2008, 13:14 by dogone
4.1 Wallpaper
What the heck. The guy on the bike is unique. It's homey, comfortable, familiar, reassuring and warm (if perhaps a bit arid). "GOAB" is fine with me, but we'd better think up a darned good story to go with it ;-). How about, "Barry rides to market."

Posted on 14 Sep 2008, 13:48 by ANOSage
It's all there! Lone developer conquers the wilderness for enjoyment. What better dynamic? Don't listen to the heartless siren voices, Barry - you got this one dead right first time (well, apart from those cold bleak heartless icebergs). The shrinks would award you a medal. Delete all others.
Now let's focus on the bugs...

Posted on 15 Sep 2008, 3:49 by SouthPaws
How about...
...using this one for developer versions...and then using destinations (assorted places/scenes etc.) as an arrival snapshot of the final/stable versions.

Posted on 15 Sep 2008, 12:42 by Subito Piano
my, we are opinionated!!!
all this tempest in a teapot is QUITE entertaining, no? ;-)

Now why aren't we all so zealous about development/software issues?? Maybe like me, we all feel inadequate to engage on the more important issues. :-D

Hope that if nothing else, all this gives Barry a well-deserved moment of chuckling...

Posted on 18 Sep 2008, 7:29 by William
Well, if that is Bill Gates in the shot, it could have a bit of fun factor, but it is far too low res
compared to the Puppy 4, which is ace.