Woof alpha8 iso uploaded

These are quick bugfixes of alpha7. There are three fixes:

1. The "black desktop" on slow PCs.
2. 'localedef' causes hang at bootup on 64MB PCs.
3. Busybox 'mkswap' dumped in favour of full utility.

If you don't have any of these problems, then the previous upup-471.iso is fine.

I cannot fix the default 'utf8' IO charset of FAT filesystems until I recompile the kernel. That will be done for 'beta1', coming up next.

I have a problem right now, still no Internet connection at home, so have to do this upload from the Perenjori Telecentre. Which is also a problem -- as I mentioned in an earlier blog post, an FTP transfer locks out anyone else who wants Internet access at the Telecentre. Perenjori is a tiny little town, often I'm the only one there using the PCs, but just in case someone does come in, I have decided to break the file into small pieces so that I can more easily finish the upload later.

This is good for people on dialup, who would like to take part in testing these Woof builds but find the 100MB+ downloads too big. I have split 'upup-473.iso' into five pieces, xaa, xab, xac, xad and xae. Download each one and join them togther like this:

# cat xaa xab xac xad xae > upup-473.iso

There is file 'md5.txt' with md5sums of each file, also of the final 'upup-473.iso'.

I'm watching the files upload right now. About 40KB/sec, so they are taking about 8 - 9 minutes each. I have the PCs to myself, only the Telecentre Manager is here (she is also the Postmistress, plus other duties -- as I said, this is a tiny town!)

Okay, done. Get these files from here:


Just did a test download of 'xaa', SeaMonkey wanted to rename it to 'xaa.html', so make sure it has the correct name in the download dialog box.

I uploaded to puppylinux.com rather than ibiblio.org, as the latter can be very slow. Note that I will not have Internet access again until Monday, back here at the Telecentre.

Posted on 15 May 2009, 10:12


Posted on 15 May 2009, 11:55 by ttuuxxx
Hi Barry did you get a chance to test any of the package I made up?
So far its
-libpng patched with Apng usability
-Updated puppy package manager with Tab feature
-Roxfiler 2.8 & 2.9 with new theme, every icon has been compressed with gimp.
-Mp 5.1.2
-MP 3.3.18b
-Latest Mplayer svn with Gnome Mplayer front end, works really well, drag and drop files, playlist,m3u, plays realmedia,
-Gnome Games Lite version I made up, about 1/6 the regular size and only missing 3 games out of 17 :)
-Latest Gimp
-Gimp Xsane version, only works if gimp is installed.
-1.7MB pidgin pet

Posted on 15 May 2009, 12:10 by ttuuxxx
Gnome Mplayer
Hi Barry I forgot to mention one of the nice thing about Gnome Mplayer front end for Mplayer is, that it forces fullscreen, the taskbar slides down after about 5 seconds of the movie playing, really neat feature and for the size of it, its great. its about 1MB+ compressed larger than gxine but thats because it has the latest internal ffmpeg, and plays dvds really nice. Also plays mp3 and music cds, a real good find.

Oh ya have you updated any of the other woof breeds since alpha 3, I really would like to work on Dpup.
anyways Thanks Barry for a great job

Posted on 15 May 2009, 15:54 by GreatnessGuru
X messes screen
Woof Alpha 7 & 8:
Seems the boot dialogs for the display,
etc., are missing. Therefor, my screen gets
garbaged when X tries to start.
(puppy pfix=ram
Also initial boot after install.)

Where, oh, where did those dialogs go?

Hope someone can find them,
Eddie Maddox
Inwood IA USA

Posted on 15 May 2009, 16:22 by Bm
woof alpha8
Hi Barry,
I still have the black screen and as you can see below, I don't have a slow machine.

So my latest goodworking upup is still 466

Hope you can make something out of it.


Processor : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6300 @ 1.86GHz
Memory : 1033MB (81MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0,46
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : vr 15 mei 2009 10:18:51 CEST
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA VIA VT82xx
-Input Devices-
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse
Power Button (FF)
Power Button (CM)
Sleep Button (CM)
PC Speaker
-Printers (CUPS)-
CUPS-PDF : <i>(Default)</i>
-IDE Disks-
-SCSI Disks-
ATA ST3320820AS
ATA ST3320820AS
Generic Flash HS-CF
Generic Flash HS-MS/SD
Generic Flash HS-SM

Posted on 15 May 2009, 21:16 by happypuppy
Upup Alpha 7 WARNING
I get this warning message with Upup Alpha 7:

" WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf ,all config files belong to /etc/modprobe.d/ "

You'll have to exit from X to the commandline to see it.

Posted on 15 May 2009, 21:42 by happypuppy
Karmic Koala = WOW!
Karmic Koala is *MUCH* faster than Jaunty !

First benchmarks of Karmic Alpha 1 with the 2.6.30-rc5 kernel:


Posted on 15 May 2009, 24:54 by rebbi1
Shut down issues

Puppy is fantastic, but I can't get alpha 6 or alpha 7 to shut down properly on my old HP laptop (4.2 is fine). When I try to shut down, I never get the standard offers to create a pup-save file and so on. So I can't save any of my settings or applications. Oddly, even on a shutdown, the computer never actually powers fully down (as it does in 4.2). Instead, the power LED stays lit or begins to flash slowly as if the machine's gone into some sort of suspend mode. Any ideas??

Posted on 16 May 2009, 8:06 by Miaou
GoodJob but Package Manager
Hi Barry,
Everything works fine for me except the package Manager. Dependencies are not installed and apart from that several packages are missing from the repositories. For instance try to install:


and you will see what I mean. Other packages you would like to try to install are:
evince (with support for postscript documents)

If these can be installed without agony and pain and they work fine, then we are in pretty good position

Posted on 16 May 2009, 15:38 by poppyer2
sfs module howto?
I try to utilize that idea of "sfs modules", but I don't know build a sfs module, specifically, how to install a package to a sfs module? It seems that petget has no --root=dir like options to relocate a package.

And also, I see some centralized file in /root/.packages/, will the packages installed in a sfs module recognized by the package management system?

Posted on 18 May 2009, 3:52 by djr
missing ucode for intel wireless
running alpha8 on an HP dv5 laptop using a manual frugal install. works fine except... I need to copy the file iwlwifi-5000-1.ucode into /lib/firmware to get the Intel wireless driver to work. I think this is associated with the module iwlagn.ko

Posted on 18 May 2009, 16:08 by lobster
Alpha 8
The complete (all five files) are now combined and hosted by Caneri


Posted on 19 May 2009, 12:05 by davids45
black out Medion?
I think I have the same computer model as Bm (Medion 8818) and I have the same almost instant black screen failure to boot with the latest upup Live CD.
I have the same black screen failure with the latest Lighthouse Pup, and all of MU's NY pups and the lxde-pup.
My older Medion 8383 boots all these Live CDs OK as does my work HP (both these are Hyperthreading rather than true dual core like the 8818). So could it be the video card or the wireless keyboard/mouse or some other hardware peculiarity of this computer reacting badly to something common in all these Pups, but not in 4.2?
Puppy 4.2 in both single and multiple core versions is excellent on everything I've tried.

Posted on 20 May 2009, 9:31 by BarryK
RE: iwlwifi firmware
running alpha8 on an HP dv5 laptop using a manual frugal install. works fine except... I need to copy the file iwlwifi-5000-1.ucode into /lib/firmware to get the Intel wireless driver to work. I think this is associated with the module iwlagn.ko

You need to give me a link to get it from.

Posted on 20 May 2009, 10:52 by GreatnessGuru
Messed up display: X or Console?
What I had thought was X messing up
in Alphas 7 & 8 may really be the
Console display during boot
since it happens very soon after
entering "puppy pfix=ram" and
before any dialogs appear about
screen size, etc.

It may also be the same as the
"black screen" some have reported,
but my console screen doesn't turn
black, but has other garbage instead.

Alpha six worked. I'm using that to
type this up.

4.1.2 also works fine.

Eddie Maddox
Inwood IA USA