New Xorg drivers for 414

Ttuuxxx suggested that Puppy 4.x is lacking some video drivers that 3.x has.

Mmmm, yes, I'm looking into what got removed when cutting down Xorg. Ok, in /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers I have now added these video drivers: (Alliance ProMotion) (Ark Logic) (Cirrus Logic) (3dlabs) (Number Nine Visual Technology) (Integrated Micro Solutions) (Matrox) (Rendition) (S3) (VMware)

All of the above were compiled in T2 back in November 2007. Xorg should still have worked without these drivers -- it would fallback to the generic driver if the hardware-specific driver is not found. However, the proper driver may fix some issues with this hardware, and will give faster rendering.

I don't know if these other files are needed. They were taken out also, but perhaps with the above drivers put back in, one or more of these are now required:

These have been added to /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules:

Posted on 22 Jun 2009, 23:25


Posted on 23 Jun 2009, 4:19 by ttuuxxx
Hi barry, I said I did like 3 series a bit better than 4 series, but the xorg modules in question were the ones that were added to 2.14.R, I have a feeling its one of those which make Flash 10 work properly with Seamonkey/Firefox
You can get 2.14.1X the updated version That I've been working on at
It has the same extra drivers that 2.14.1 didn't come with, dougal added them.
Thanks for looking for the answers Barry

Here's a complete list of drivers from 2.14.1X/R

Posted on 23 Jun 2009, 4:54 by ttuuxxx
Hi Barry I've been manually comparing 2.14 and 2.14.1R/X in Xorg and found something interesting 2 modules and 2 system links were deleted in 2.14.1X/R maybe they were faulty in 2.14 or maybe if they are removed, the video wizard would be forced to use other drivers? I don't know why dougal removed them
it was these files removed.
/usr/X11R7/lib/ plus system link and

well hope that helps

Posted on 23 Jun 2009, 8:06 by BarryK
Re: missing Xorg drivers
Thanks for the feedback. I have now got most of those in 414. I found a good reference page:

You have listed '' but that is now part of ''. Ditto, '' is now part of ''.

What I don't have is '', which wasn't in the T2 compile.

I don't have those NVIDIA drivers or library file. Xorg has '' which is its own NVIDIA driver, whereas the ones you mentioned are from the NVIDIA company I think. Perhaps they clash.

So, apart from the '', I've brought 414 up to a par with your 214X.

Posted on 23 Jun 2009, 11:18 by ttuuxxx
Hi Barry Just let us know when its up and I'll have a look at it, If possible could you make the submenus 24x24 icons just like the main menu and not 16x16, I'll change the icons once I get a hold of it :) Its just that you have it coded somewhere and every-time I try to change it, it never displays 24x24, lol Thanks

Posted on 23 Jun 2009, 19:35 by ICPUG is now part of
Barry keeps stating this yet does not take the users preferred resolution and maintains what it thinks is best.

The only way I can choose 800x600 in these Puppies is to put back in again and edit the xorg.cfg. As the i810 is a very common video system in older laptops I am sure I am not the only one affected - although I might be the only one who runs 800 x 600 cos my eyes are old as well as my laptop.

Posted on 23 Jun 2009, 21:30 by BarryK
Re: i810
Yeah, but I'm only repeating the official line, quoting from the above link:

intel (formerly i810) - Intel 8xx/9xx motherboards (i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830, i845, i855, i865, i915, i945, i965)
Maintainer: Alan Hourihane

Is there a workaround? If we put in from xorg 7.2, will it work, and will it work without clashing with
No one has every come back to me with a solution for this problem.

Posted on 24 Jun 2009, 19:31 by ICPUG
i810 workaround
The workaround I have always used is described here:

I'm sorry - I am a humble user, not clever enough to be a developer. Will it work without clashing with I don't know and don't know how to test.

At the very least it would be just nice to have the i810_drv.iso in the puppy package so all that would be necessary for i810 users would be to mod the xorg.cfg. The default would still be intel_drv so no clash.