Pup 4.3beta2 still has Flash player version 18.104.22.168, which is getting rather old.
I have stayed with it because it works for me, and is small.
So, do we really have to move up?
Are you guys finding Flash-based sites that don't work with the older player?
Of course, the latest player is supposed to have fixed some security holes.
This is the main reason I am so reluctant to upgrade:
...these are the compressed sizes, so the upgrade would cause the live-CD size to jump up about 1.4MB.
Comments:Posted on 7 Sep 2009, 16:30 by Tony
Yes please to new flash
Hi Barry, Flash is so pervasive and some large sites like the BBCi player will not work without the upgraded version. Also I am hearing of more and more attempts to hijack browsers so it would be much appreciated.
Posted on 7 Sep 2009, 16:33 by DC
For the users of the BBC iplayer we have to upgrage the flash player.
And when you keep irregular hours (playing with puppy :-) I tend to watch iplayer more than live tv
Posted on 7 Sep 2009, 16:44 by a.h.
I need quite new flash to see www.yle.fi/areena TV.
Macromedia Flash Player 9 Update 3 (v22.214.171.124) or newer!
Videos:AVC/H.264, 600 kb/s Size 512x288
Audio bitrate in videos 64 kb/s stereo (AAC)
Posted on 7 Sep 2009, 18:37 by Lobster
Iplayer does not work with older Flash (used to) So to run such things need flash 10 and above. I always install the pet ;)
Posted on 7 Sep 2009, 21:33 by BarryK
Ok, I've upgraded.
Posted on 7 Sep 2009, 22:13 by dogle
The other way ...
... is to refuse to let Puppy be used in support of closed-source commercial empire-building, and omit the rotten thing altogether from the ISO. The online user gets prompted to download it pretty quickly anyway, more's the pity.
Posted on 7 Sep 2009, 22:53 by dogle
.. just seen http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/knoppix-adriane.html - no Flash.
Posted on 7 Sep 2009, 24:21 by happypuppy
Flash 10 - smart move
Thanks for including Flash 10 in Puppy 4.3.
Many video sites require the new Flash 10 plugin.
Despite the larger filesize,it runs much faster on older hardware.
Posted on 7 Sep 2009, 24:28 by aarf
combine the webpage analytic capabilities of trios gui downloader for flash.swf with the code from the automatic java installer athttp://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=45643 and then use it to not only install the latest java but also the latest flashplayer. then flashplayer can be left out of the iso.
but definitely access to the latest flashplayer is needed and is one of the first thing i check and upgrade with any pup.
future use my part will also try to symlink the flashpayer from outside the pup_save as isdone wih my java install
Posted on 11 Sep 2009, 2:37 by robert359
Related to this, I have a hard drive install of puppy 4, and I have 2 problems I asked about on the forum, but no one seems to have an answer. One relates to flash. I had flash 9, and now flash 10 in the newer opera and seapuppy. In both cases, the flash fullscreen does not work. It just blinks to fullscreen for a sec, then goes to usual size, or it shows fullscreen within the normal size flash box/area. Do you have any ideas what I can do about this? In answer to your question, some sites seem to be insisting on flash 10, so maybe its a good idea to include it... Thanks.
Posted on 11 Sep 2009, 8:13 by BarryK
I presume you are talking about pup 4.0 or 4.1. The latest JWM fixes the fullscreen problem.
Posted on 11 Sep 2009, 21:17 by robert359
Barry, it's puppy 4.2.1; I had this problem since install, so I tried the Opera 10 and Seamonkey 2.1 as found here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=43950 but they both had the same problem. If I remember right, I think I also tried a flash 10 .pet that might be the fix you mention. I'm not sure. I have Windows XP on the same machine and the fullscreen works. It works in Maryan Linux too, but I prefer Puppy, so hopefully I can get this figured out. Oddly enough, if I go to the site (cbs.com/classics) without flash installed as on a live CD, it wants me to install Flash 9.
Posted on 12 Sep 2009, 11:56 by ttuuxxx
Hi Barry I've been ripping apart puppy versions and doing test for the latest flash10 / firefox 3.5.
To have flash working 100% the best combination of all the puppy release put together is the following mix.
GlibC from series 3
Xorg from 2.14R/X with the /etc/X11 settings (this older version of Xorg was compiled with extra modules and also has x-inputs where as 3 retro series didn't)
Latest glib/gtk/pango,dbus,rox etc etc etc
This combination gives you extremely fast scrolling on flash site, it doesn't bog down the pages. Plus when you boot up using zdrv_???.sfs split file system, the memory usage was 32MB.
Something like this could cater with older PC's as well as newer ones, It would be nice if we had something like this. I'm going to try to do unleashed 2.16.1 and make the needed changes and see where I end up.