The Woof tarball and the "Karmic Puppy" live-CD ISO file are just snapshots of work-in-progress.
The Woof tarball is currently configured to build from Ubuntu Karmic Koala packages, and I used 9.10RC packages. The Intel graphics on my laptop now seems to be behaving itself, no flicker!
I think that it should be pretty straight forward to get Woof to build a Dpup as well, and ttuuxxx and gposil may have use for this latest Woof in their Dpup project. Anyone is welcome to use Woof and Karmic Puppy and further develop them.
Their Dpup project:
But for me, well, I'm taking a break, going to work on learning more about Genie and update the online docs. My main Genie page was last updated in December 2008 -- well overdue for further attention!
Comments:Posted on 24 Oct 2009, 23:01 by 01micko
Looking forward to your work with Genie. Good luck with it!
Posted on 25 Oct 2009, 2:46 by tester
same same but different
got the same alure message for http://puppylinux.com/test/karmic-puppy-20091024/ as i did for the one detailed below except got as far as selecting time zone before it outputs the same termination message.
October 17, 2009 at 5:35 am
md5 correct at aa8b2dbb2d76d4f3449b5fc5239cb0ec dpup-482beta3-18.104.22.168.iso . frugal install by mounting iso and copy to a directory.
grub boot with:
title dpup on SDcard
kernel /dpup/vmlinuz phome=dpup psubdir=dpup pfix=fsck
boots all the way to select keyboard and after selecting default american english get:
-sh: /usr/bin/xwin input/output error
-sh: /usr/bin/xwin success
selecting other languages also has the same result.
coping files from SDcard to a usb connected harddrive and grub booting
still gives the same result.
puppy421 boots from the SDcard and usb harddrive with the similar configuration'
Posted on 25 Oct 2009, 2:51 by tester
edit: above should be "got the same failure message".
Posted on 25 Oct 2009, 3:43 by edoc
What is Genie?
What, please, is Genie?
I tried a search here and didn't find a description.
Just curious ...
Posted on 25 Oct 2009, 4:24 by pstef
What is Genie?
Posted on 25 Oct 2009, 7:14 by tech3k
Let me say thanks first of all for your wonderful distro.I have tinkered with Puppy almost since the biginning but really "dug in" deep around pup425 and have updated to every beta/release.
I run fugel installs on one ext3 partition of Puppy,LighthousePup,Tinycore,Microcore,Slitaz cooking and KolibriOS stable and snapshot all booted with grub.Today I made a upup432 directory and added your latest by loopmount the iso to foo then cp -a foo/* /path/upup432 edit ~/grub/menu.1st reboot.
Very nice :)
As a test I removed the pup-5 and added universe then updated the package manager and installed audiacity which went into the menu and works perfectly.
Any chance you might hack woof to use vanilla Debian stable/testing/unstable?That would really be sweet to play with Pup-Sid.
Posted on 25 Oct 2009, 7:43 by playdayz
WOW WOW WOW
this is what i have been waiting for--i can use Puppy *and* all of the latest linux programs, such as srware iron and chromium, both of which work out of the box: download, unpack, run. Also Firefox 3.6, Swiftfox, and Seamonkey 2. Also Puppy will use all 4 cores. All of the creativity and productivity software. And the greatest thing is that it is the Puppy desktop and user experience instead of the poke poke poke along ubuntu. additionally, puppy provides the tools for me to do things the linux way conveniently, such as opening a terminal in a particular window and mounting drives, and much more. You are going to be very famous Barry. You ought to figure the way to tastefully make money from it ;-) you ought to be rewarded for this kind of contribution.
Posted on 25 Oct 2009, 9:02 by BarryK
The problem that needs to be fixed though, is that the assignment of categories for the packages is not very good. This is done automatically when the Ubuntu (or Debian) package database files are downloaded and converted to Puppy db format. Wosh is looking into improving this.
For example, if you look in the "Personal" category, you will find the most inappropriate packages listed there.
Gposil is looking into getting Debian's native package manager tools to work in Dpup.
Posted on 25 Oct 2009, 15:44 by Terryphi
Upup displaced display
Thanks, Barry, for the live CD. Unfortunately, I still have the displaced display problem which makes Upup very irritating to use. Shame.
Posted on 26 Oct 2009, 10:58 by Raffy
The use of writable sfs that also functions as executable (think appdir) will also change the way Puppy Linux is used. Think of apps in sfs that saves its program settings into itself!
Posted on 26 Oct 2009, 14:36 by BarryK
Yes, also the developer of Aufs added some extra capability for mounting a layered f.s. inside the initramfs. This was something discussed on their mail list awhile back.
Both of these features are of interest to the Unipup concept, that I also want to get back onto soon.
Posted on 26 Oct 2009, 18:37 by Iguleeder
spup, and Slack 13 in Woof
You should see this:
I'm currently adding Slackware 13 txz package to Woof ... so far it goes pretty well.
Posted on 6 Nov 2009, 14:48 by ttuuxxx
Karmic missing Files !!!
Well Barry just started bulding Karmic and well 31 missing files scattered all over the net, I'm just thinking maybe it could be better to mirror all the deb files and have it last on the list for searches, that way it will download from all other servers first and if its missing then it will pull it from the mirror? Here's a link to all the missing packages.
hope that helps people.
Posted on 6 Nov 2009, 18:00 by BarryK
The Woof package that I uploaded along with the Upup snapshot iso file, should just work.
Those files are not "missing".
...looking in file Packages-puppy-4-official, yes it is in there.
Perhaps you need to run '1download' again, as some pkgs can fail to download properly.
Looking at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to check on one of those "missing" debs...
And checking in Packages-ubuntu-karmic-main:
So, no problem, the two that I checked are not missing and 1download should download them.
Posted on 7 Nov 2009, 5:52 by ttuuxxx
Hi Barry you also never posted rox_filer-2.9.0-p4.pet, shared-mime-info-0.70.pet, rox_filer-2.9.0-p4.pet, 0hack1_karmic_dev-091019.pet These can not be found anywhere.
If you could post these missing packages I could add them to link.
Posted on 7 Nov 2009, 6:35 by ttuuxxx
oops missed this one shared-mime-info_DEV-0.70.pet
so as a recap these 4 files I can't find
Posted on 7 Nov 2009, 20:37 by BarryK
Re: Missing pkgs
Ok, I have updated the pkgs at ibiblio.
Posted on 8 Nov 2009, 20:36 by ttuuxxx
Hi Barry I released a full version of Karmic with all drivers located at http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=359318#359318
Micko had 2 issues with it,
1 Xorg wouldn't work for his raedon 9200 pro, 128MB video card
2 His keyboad Microsoft Wired Keyboard Model No- RT2300 numberlock led doesn't work
Any Ideas or fixes you know about ?
Posted on 1 Dec 2009, 17:40 by tester
sucess for dpupbeta5 so for karmic?
"Posted on 25 Oct 2009, 2:46 by tester
same same but different
got the same failure message for http://puppylinux.com/test/karmic-puppy-20091024/ as i did for the one detailed below except got as far as selecting time zone before it outputs the same termination message. "
dpup beta5 has solved the problem above so is there a karmic that will grub boot now too?
Posted on 26 Dec 2009, 22:05 by tester
success ttuuxx upup450
success now upup450 boots see