Woof uploaded, March 4, 2010

Here are the commit notes since the last upload (which was Feb. 8):

woof supports Pwireless2, upcoming quirky 007 has Pwireless2
partial integration of Pwireless2, Network Wiz and Network Wiz Classic via connect icon
complete integration of all network setup tools (take one)
rerwin: handle concurrency of modem detection and firmware loading
this version used to build quirky 008
Quirky 008 really-final: blacklisted kernel nouveau driver, fixed connectwizard_2nd script

Note that this Woof also has a couple of bug fixes for /usr/bin/dir2pet and /usr/bin/petspec.

Further info: http://bkhome.org/woof/

Posted on 4 Mar 2010, 10:12


Posted on 5 Mar 2010, 16:12 by 01micko
Hello Barry,

I just built a Ppup from your latest Woof with the latest kernel. ATM it seems quite sane but it is early days yet, posting from it now. Of course I am aware it is early days with 2.6.33 as well.

It weighs in at 101 MB. As my knowledge of woof increases I'm sure I can get it below 100MB, I have all the wallpapers and there was an option to reduce some modules and run depmod at boot in 3builddistro that I overrode the default, just to be safe because on my first attempt I had no modules! (probably my mistake).

I am toying with the idea of heading up a ppup version of Puppy5... only because no one else has stepped up to the crease. We'll see.


Posted on 5 Mar 2010, 17:42 by BarryK
Well, the 4.4 being developed by technosaurus is Ppup. The difference would be though, is technosaurus syncing with the latest Woof? -- he might be working on a fork of Woof.

Posted on 5 Mar 2010, 18:17 by 01micko
I think techno is going more with the CE approach, more or less based on 4.3x with certain upgraded libs and apps. I like his ideas and help if/when I can.

I don't want to stomp on toes so I will liaise with him and see what happens.

Posted on 8 Mar 2010, 22:57 by ttuuxxx
Hi Barry, I was in the mood to build a woof, but it was like I was chasing my tail around and around and around, grrr As bones goes, I don't need or like it. When it tries to download the woof deltas, it gets errors, upon errors etc, it starts downloading and fails on almost all the deltas, its always leaving and not returning to the gui, and the only woof I can actually get is from 2009!
Why all the deltas? Its not like I wasn't going going to download 500+ packages and need to save on downloads, Can I please just have your latest woof scripts and forget about bones and delta's. Please. Just the latest updated woof scripts. I don't even have xdelta installed on 2.14X. (Its in the next release :)


Posted on 9 Mar 2010, 7:24 by BarryK
Woof/Bones works fine
Running Quirky 008, I just did a test download of Woof, using Bones. No problems, very smooth, only took a few minutes.

Most of those delta files are only about 8KB, and they all download very fast.

Once Woof is downloaded, any future time "bones download" is run, only the latest deltas are downloaded, so it is extremely efficient.

Of course, your Puppy does need Xdelta installed.

It is so easy to do, that my reply is no, I won't provide a tarball of latest Woof.

Posted on 9 Mar 2010, 7:46 by ttuuxxx
Well that's a bit disappointing, I expected better than that from you.

here's your error's

sh-3.00# bones download

--09:44:43-- http://bkhome.org/bones/woof/
=> `index.html'
Resolving bkhome.org...
Connecting to bkhome.org||:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 5,187 (5.1K) [text/html]

100%[====================================>] 5,187 20.02K/s

09:44:43 (20.00 KB/s) - `index.html' saved [5187/5187]

Removing index.html since it should be rejected.

FINISHED --09:44:43--
Downloaded: 5,187 bytes in 1 files
File `setup' already there; not retrieving.

--09:44:43-- http://bkhome.org/bones/woof/commits
=> `commits'
Resolving bkhome.org...
Connecting to bkhome.org||:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 6,313 (6.2K) [text/plain]

100%[====================================>] 6,313 24.49K/s

09:44:44 (24.45 KB/s) - `commits' saved [6313/6313]

--09:44:44-- http://bkhome.org/bones/woof/filelist
=> `filelist'
Resolving bkhome.org...
Connecting to bkhome.org||:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 289 [text/plain]

100%[====================================>] 289 --.--K/s

09:44:45 (59.82 MB/s) - `filelist' saved [289/289]

cp: missing destination file operand after `PREVIOUS.tar.gz'
Try `cp --help' for more information.

mv: cannot stat `PREVIOUS.tar.gz': No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat `LATEST.tar.gz': No such file or directory
A problem. Suggest run 'bones download' again.
Not updating files in /mnt/sda2/WoofMarch2010-bones

Posted on 9 Mar 2010, 8:46 by BarryK
Woof snapshot
I'm just being obstinate. Here you go (8.2MB):


Normally though, the only time that I will upload a snapshot of Woof is if there is an official release of Puppy (or Quirky).

Posted on 9 Mar 2010, 8:49 by BarryK
March 4
The date on that Woof snapshot should have been March 4, 2010.

Posted on 9 Mar 2010, 8:59 by ttuuxxx
Thanks Barry for that :) It really does feels nice when someone does something for you, much appreciated :) You made my day :)


Posted on 9 Mar 2010, 20:44 by 01micko
bones and woof
I had no trouble with bones and woof making a puppy.

I built a ppup a few days ago from woof March 4 and built a tpup of 99MB today.. it works too! But there are issues, mostly related to the new network tools integration... it is fine on some of my machines but not on others, all to do with wireless.

My son's Lenovo R61e works fine and it has intel wireless, but my box and the wife's machine both use an rt73 usb device and we have no connection with all tools, (old and new network wizard and pwireless2). Also no go with a Netgear usb device using rtl8187 module.
The ppup I built would connect on my box, but strangely there was an error at the "testing wireless" progress bar immediately after saving the configuration (wep in this case) in the newer (Dougal's) network wizard. Exactly the same in Q-008.
The progress bar got to 100% and the message in the next gui was "Unable to find.... etc". Tried to connect anyway but failed. Have never had a problem with this configuration before in any pup or quirky, including woof built spups and apups by me.
Then from that gui using the "Test" button the same progress bar got to 40% and I got the "Success" message in the gui and connection after that was made. Similar results with the old network wizard. Pwireless2 just errored out immediately with "network interface not found".

Hope some of this is helpful, I will look further when I get the time.


Posted on 9 Mar 2010, 21:11 by BarryK
My Simple Network Setup tool is in Woof, not a separate package. So, it'll be in the next Woof. Also in Quirky 009, that I intend to upload soon.

Posted on 9 Mar 2010, 21:34 by ttuuxxx
Hi Barry I built a Tpup with woof, during the build I had this error, anyway to fix it?
Also it had another error during the packaging of the sfs near the end, depmod not found, and when I looked in the sandbox folder it was there in its right spot. So when I went to boot Tpup, it had a fatal depmod error.

A package information database file needs to be downloaded.

This will be downloaded from:
and will be processed and named Packages-t2-8.0rc-official.
Press ENTER key to download, any other to abort:

Checking that compat-distro pkgs specified in PKGS_SPECS_TABLE actually exist...
FAIL: xkill

Finished, but some failures. You need to fix the above entries in
Search for suitable packages in these files:
Or, search online. In the case of Debian or Ubuntu, you can search
at packages.debian.org or packages.ubuntu.com.
After you have fixed PKGS_SPECS_TABLE, run this script again.

If I get Tpup up and running I wouldn't mind supporting it for puppy5, The final iso was 101MB with all the drivers included scsi, old modems etc. Great size, wouldn't be too hard to get it under 100MB