Quirky 1.1

I am pleased to announce the released of Quirky 1.1. Briefly:

The main focus was to fix bugs in 1.0, but I also upgraded many applications. Most importantly, SeaMonkey has migrated from the 1.x series, after we solved some bugs with the 2.x series. JWM is now the default window manager and tray, as it is noticeably faster (and looks nicer) than Openbox/Fbpanel. Two showstoppers were Ayttm and You2pup did not work, both fixed.

Announcement and release notes:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/quirky/quirky-1.1/release-Quirky-1.1.htm

The live-CD ISO file (108.1MB):
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/quirky/quirky-1.1/qrky-110.iso

Quirky-Retro live-CD (older 2.6.30.5 kernel, analog modem and SCSI drivers) (116.9MB):
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/quirky/quirky-1.1/qret-110.iso

The 'devx' SFS files:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/quirky/

More SFS files:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/quirky/sfs/

The files will also be available on the faster Ibiblio mirrors, see links page:
http://puppylinux.com/download/

Bug report: Nvidia
A little bug snuck through. If you have nvidia hardware, the default 'nvidia' Xorg driver works for most people. However, in some cases the basic 'nv' driver works better. The Xorg Wizard allows you to choose either one, however the code has a bug. Type at the console (if X not runing):
# mp /usr/sbin/xorgwizard
...change line 97 to this: "rmmod nvidia"
...change line 109 to this: "modprobe nvidia"
In other words, the operation is being swapped. Then run xorgwizard:
# xorgwizard
...and it should work properly to choose between the 'nvidia' or 'nv' drivers.

Bug report: Intel
My blog documents the disappointing saga of the Intel Xorg drivers. With Quirky 1.x, which uses Xorg 7.5, we have a situation where some Intel video hardware no longer works. You will have to use the generic 'vesa' driver (slow). The only solution is to roll back to an earlier version of Xorg, 7.3, as used in Puppy 4.3.1. Also, "Wary Puppy" uses Xorg 7.3 -- this is the same as Quirky except for the older Xorg -- expect a final release of Wary soon.


Posted on 16 May 2010, 17:39


Comments:

Posted on 16 May 2010, 18:21 by 01micko
Thanks
Hi Barry

I have been playing with the retro version for a little while. Very nice on my young fellow's lenovo R61e. Main reason for using the retro on that particular machine is that the skype sfs was crashing with the webcam (an usb webcam, tried a couple of them; particular to that machine), actually with 2.6.33 the webcam was crashing the system with any webcam app. Weird, but hey, horses for courses.

I also installed Iron browser on that machine (it needs a glibc.dbus package from disciple to work, I made thread about it). My son loved the Chromium browser in Lupu but also wanted Skype. Kids! So I (he) eagerly awaited this retro version.

Thanks

Cheers


Posted on 16 May 2010, 22:15 by broomdodger
glibc.dbus where
Where is glibc.dbus to be downloaded?



Posted on 16 May 2010, 22:44 by broomdodger
glibc.dbus found
ok... I found it, I am learning how to use puppy toys.

Now using Iron in Quarky 1.1

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/
search
keyword: glibc.dbus
author: disciple


Posted on 16 May 2010, 23:49 by broomdodger
PMirrorget
quirky110 frugal

Menu > Internet > PMirrorget website downloader
- the close button on the Help dialog does not work

In the dock on the left there is "Free space in drives" icon and on the right is the memory meter icon.

Clicking on either does the same thing, opens Partview free space in drive.

I have seen xfce4-taskmanager in Ubuntu, can this be added and linked to the memory meter icon?



Posted on 17 May 2010, 2:04 by broomdodger
JWM configuration bug
quirky110 frugal

Menu
> Desktop JWM configuration
> Application launch buttons in tray
> Edit: Edit your existing Panel Buttons
- does not select buttons
- will not quit
- even selecting "kill" in the dock will not end

similarly with:
> Remove: Remove a panel button
- does not select buttons
- will not quit
- even selecting "kill" in the dock will not end

Restart and it is now gone.



Posted on 17 May 2010, 2:20 by broomdodger
jwmrc-personal
quirky110 frugal

Since I had trouble with JWM configuration, I went looking and whaduyaknow... I found what I was previously asking for... snap-to...

I did the edit below and now windows snap-to each other and to the screen edges.

/root/.jwm/jwmrc-personal

<!-- The snap mode (none, screen, or border) -->
<SnapMode distance="20">border</SnapMode>




Posted on 17 May 2010, 4:46 by joe.c
Quirky 1.1
Old hardware with 256m ram, Quirky 1.1 works perfect.
Special thanks for Gxine, installs and works perfect.
joe


Posted on 17 May 2010, 6:50 by disciple
gconf-dbus
> it needs a glibc.dbus package
That'll be gconf-dbus for anyone else who is confused ;)


Posted on 17 May 2010, 8:15 by disciple
nvidia
Weird. Using the nvidia driver if I choose 1280x1024 it generates a correct Xorg.conf, but really only displays 1024x768. Never had that problem before.
But choosing nv works... so why does the bug Barry explained seem to not affect me?


Posted on 17 May 2010, 8:30 by BarryK
Re Nvidia bug
disciple,
it is really only a buglet. When you reran the Xorg Wizard and choose 'nv', the nvidia kernel module would have been left loaded, which apparently does not affect 'nv' driver.
However, if you had run the Wizard yet again and gone back to 'nvidia' Xorg driver, the nvidia kernel module would have got unloaded then it wouldn't have worked at all.



Posted on 17 May 2010, 13:17 by Vverve
Impress again...
Another hit M.Kauler!!
I got one HDA intel GM965 graphic on my lappy ,he look happy with Xorg7.5 . One regression from 431(or is it 2.6.33.2) ,I cannot get the synaptic touchpad to recognise the ``Enable touchpad for mouse button clicks`` that is checked in the Mouse Wizard .
You eventualy(i have not test these intensely yet,but seems to run well on quirky) could had to your sfs ,
for animation ,cad ,cam:
blender-2.49b_431.sfs
need ..python-2.6.4_431.sfs
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=52163
and for musicians:
l3ashstudio-431.sfs (i link these 431 to _sfs4)
need :libsamplerate-0.1.7-prescott.pet
http://sourceforge.net/projects/lashstudio/

named Quirky,mmm the french I am had to look for the definition...way-out ,kinky ,offbeat it says...I like that , it shurely bark just right to my ears...n_n

Regards




Posted on 17 May 2010, 22:00 by prehistoric
Success!
This finally gives rock-solid video on a problematic machine with SiS video which even shows glitches under Windoze. I'll test on some more machines with Intel video as opportunity presents.

There may be a minor bug in unmounting USB flash drives. I just moved an sfs file (using a flash drive) to a machine running Quirky. After copying it from there to the internal hard drive, I unmounted the flash drive using the right click option on the drive icon. The blinking light on the flash drive never did want to quit, even though nothing was being written to the flash drive and the copy to the internal drive was complete.

As I suspected it was safe to remove the drive, I rebooted the machine, using the shutdown menu, and, sure enough, the light stopped blinking immediately.


Posted on 18 May 2010, 14:34 by wuwei
pppoe connection
Barry
I am running Quirky 1.1 almost flawlessly on my PC, including the nvidia driver in xorgwizard.
There is one strange bug, though. The pppoe connection established via Roaring Penguin cannot be maintain during reboots. The same goes for Lupu 5.0 and I have reported about this in that bug thread
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=419473#419473
Hope you can find an answer, particularly because 432v3 doesn't have this problem at all. So there must be something that changed between 432v3 and Lupu/Quirky.

Thanks and a Good Day to Downunder


Posted on 18 May 2010, 21:03 by wuwei
more pppoe
Hi Barry
just wanted to verify my previous findings on the pppoe connection. So I did a fresh frugal install of both versions of Quirky, the regular with kernel 2.6.33 and the retro version with kernel 2.6.30. In both cases I went through the setup but once the desktop was reached I didn't do anything else but establish the pppoe connection. Here are the results:

Quirky with kernel 2.6.33:
autoDHCP by Internet Connection Wizard
Setup in Roaring Penguin;
Start in RP;
Seamonkey shows web pages.
Symlink in /root/Startup to /usr/sbin/pppoe-start_shell
Reboot
open SM, no internet connection
open Roaring Penguin, click on Status, pppoe is (supposedly) up; contrary to SM showing no connection;
click on Stop
click on Start
connection established,
SM shows web pages.

So far, this is what I reported earlier.

Next
Quirky with kernel 2.6.30:
[without nvidia drivers desktop opens with a 5mm shift to the left; but that is just a side issue and can be corrected by the proper nVidia driver]
autoDHCP by Internet Connection Wizard
Setup in Roaring Penguin;
Start in RP;
Seamonkey shows web pages.
Symlink in /root/Startup to /usr/sbin/pppoe-start_shell
Reboot
open SM, no internet connection
open Roaring Penguin, click on Status, pppoe is (supposedly) up; contrary to SM showing no connection;
click on Stop
click on Start
connection timed out !
need to go through Setup procedure again; just as after the first boot,
then SM shows web pages.

So, retro is even worse than the regular Quirky. That doesn't bother me too much, but I thought you should know. Also, my experiment shows that it is not the kernel change from 2.6.30 to 33 that brought about this problem. ttuuxxx's 432v3 is based on kernel 2.6.30, as well. So where is the bug hidden?


Posted on 19 May 2010, 17:00 by Firewave
Various things
I ran into Quirky just a few days ago and so far I have been very pleased, but I ran into a few issues:
- .mkv files aren't asociated with mplayer, although it can play them
- mplayer sometimes doesn't go to fullscreen, but just to the upper corner of the screen and the shortcuts (C, F) aren't working most of the time
- it seems when the network connection is being disconnected (e.g. router restarting) while the system is running it's not able to restore the the connection
- it is not possible to mount the root (/) of a windows computer/samba share. doing some will also result in an irremovable entry in the share list
- seamonkey is a bit annoying since it has no buttons to close a tab and you always have to use the right-click menu.
- a vnc client would be nice, but the realvnc.com linux version standalone is working so fine, so it's not really a priority
- the Inetnet Connection Wizard suggests to use the Simple Network Setup, but that won't see the wireless LAN settings you made, so you have to use the Network Wizard


Posted on 19 May 2010, 19:14 by BarryK
SM tab close
seamonkey is a bit annoying since it has no buttons to close a tab and you always have to use the right-click menu.

...incorrect, there is a close button on right side of the tabs. Which in practice works just as well.



Posted on 19 May 2010, 21:17 by Firewave
Re: SM tab close

...incorrect, there is a close button on right side of the tabs. Which in practice works just as well.


Yes, it was my stupidity. Somehow I overlooked the button for days and just saw it an hour after I posted about this. Sorry.

BTW is there a proper place for Quirky support? I wasn't able to find one.


Posted on 19 May 2010, 21:37 by BarryK
Quirky 1.1 forum feedback
Oh, yes, here it is:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=55406



Posted on 20 May 2010, 3:18 by sleekmason
Brilliant.
Saying I'm impressed with quirky isn't enough. your work is Outstanding. I think I just found another project to absorb myself in. Thank you, and Best Regards, http://sleekmason.wordpress.com/