Running the standard Wary, that is with Xorg 7.3, I was getting strange behaviour with the vesa driver. On two out of three computers tested, the desktop came up okay, but clicking anywhere crashed X. X did log a message to /tmp/xerrs.log that it was "waiting to exit" or words to that effect, but no information anywhere about why it was waiting to exit.
I found that rolling back to xf86-video-vesa 1.3.0 fixed it, at least on one PC tested so far.
I just checked Debian Lenny, they use xserver-xorg-video-vesa 1.3.0. Lenny is an Xorg 7.3+ system.
However, the Xorg 7.6 Mega package has vesa 2.3.0 in it.
Comments:Posted on 15 Sep 2011, 10:55 by Raffy
Same behavior with new inexpensive laptop
This could explain the odd behavior am getting from the new AMD Fusion laptop (emachines D443) booted with the new Puppies (Fatdog64-520, Slacko, Lucid Puppy): booting to X is OK but X hangs soon after.
Posted on 15 Sep 2011, 12:31 by ozsouth
Raffy, was it Lucid 528 (220.127.116.11) or Lucid 529 (18.104.22.168)? I've found 528 very stable so far, and am about to remaster 529.
Posted on 15 Sep 2011, 16:15 by BarryK
Try old vesa
Try an experiment, install an old vesa driver. The old version 1.3.0 for Wary is here:
It is compiled for Xorg 7.3, so I don't know if it would have any problems with Xorg 7.5+. But, it would be an interesting experiment.
Install it, exit from X and restart X.
Don't do it on a save-file that has important stuff that you need to keep.
Posted on 16 Sep 2011, 11:36 by Raffy
No luck there, Barry. I installed the pet in an Atom PC then booted the fusion laptop with "pfix=vesa". It can't launch X but dropped to console. When I ran xorgwizard-old (no xorgwizard in Fatdog64-520), it can't get past "Probing".
(Additional: While tweaking X in the other machine, I noted that xorgwizard-old has no Vesa option.)
ozsouth, older kernels are not an option for me because of the new network devices in the AMD Fusion E350/emachines D443 laptop.
Posted on 16 Sep 2011, 14:37 by BarryK
Re eth0 on new kernel
Yes, my new laptop is the same, the eth0 port needs the 'tg3' driver in the 2.6.39.x kernel, it doesn't work in the 2.6.32.x kernel -- though perhaps support could be backported.
the wlan0 wireless port works with the old kernel though, and that is all I need.
Posted on 16 Sep 2011, 16:44 by Barryk
re old vesa
Yeah, I forgot, the Xorg server will refuse to load it, as it wasn't compiled to work with that server.
Posted on 18 Sep 2011, 8:36 by Raffy
xorgwizard can recover
Trying Wary again in the AMD Fusion E350/emachines D443 laptop, I noted that xorgwizard in Wary can recover from failed probing of monitor, while other new Puppies can't get past "Probing video hardware".