SeaMonkey 2.4.1 ...nup

I have compiled SeaMonkey 2.4.1 in Wary, running it now. I looked through the list of bug fixes since 2.3.2, not much at all. The main bug in Composer, the greyed-out "Image properties" in the right-click menu is not fixed.

So, I am not going to upgrade the PET for Wary/Racy.

Can't say that I'm impressed with the big version jumps with Firefox and SeaMonkey these days. They made hardly any changes and went from 2.3 to 2.4, now 2.5 is in beta. Probably not as bad as what Firefox is doing though.


Posted on 9 Oct 2011, 17:20


Comments:

Posted on 9 Oct 2011, 18:36 by Sage
Can't say that I'm impressed with... Firefox and SeaMonkey
There are other browsers!


Posted on 9 Oct 2011, 22:17 by Terryphi
Seamonkey security fixes
BK: Forget the bug fixes - look at the security fixes. They are what matter:

http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey.html


Posted on 10 Oct 2011, 4:51 by linuxcbon
2 favorites
Seamonkey is bloated like firefox, opera, chrome, etc.
Netkit, gecko , khtml, bloated too...
I have 2 favorites
- dillo but lacks javascript.
- netsurf, but can't compile latest version, buggy ?
It seems links is good too ? See http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=72044


Posted on 10 Oct 2011, 5:04 by session
Mozilla update policy
An interesting read on Firefox update policy:

http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2011/06/firefox-update-policy-the-enterprise-is-wrong-not-mozilla.ars

Don't know about the big version bumps. From time to time it's nice to point out the arbitrariness of the version number, but the short hops Firefox is making look like a game of catch-up.


Posted on 10 Oct 2011, 5:32 by Sage
Midori is....
...Webkit-based, small, fast, GPL & doo-dah, more than adequate to get started and some, as the highly respected Jemimah discovered.

Compact distros don't need to start out being all things to all men, especially if they have excellent Fora, documentation and repos for punters to build upon without tar, driver & dep grief, for example.


Posted on 10 Oct 2011, 5:38 by Adi
new entry
Amazon is preparing a new browser named silk. Perhaps it will be ported for pc this year. So more browsers will prepare web pages in cloud, a easy way to see the content without errors on the pc.


Posted on 10 Oct 2011, 5:56 by linuxcbon
webkit
I meant webkit, it is bloated too (Source = 19.3 MB)


Posted on 10 Oct 2011, 7:57 by technosaurus
webkit/mozilla size
The webkit and mozilla sources contain source code for all of the supported platforms as well as third-party sources for various subsystems (many of which can use the system libs instead) In fact, a webkitgtk/midori package can be under 3mb if you use the glib unicode backend. I have gotten close to 2mb using a patched uclibc++ (much of the bloat comes from C++).


Posted on 10 Oct 2011, 10:44 by BarryK
Re webkit
technosaurus,
Yeah, but add SSL support and see what size it becomes!



Posted on 10 Oct 2011, 13:35 by linuxcbon
links
typing from links, display of html is ugly. Still centuries to go to be an acceptable brwoser.


Posted on 10 Oct 2011, 13:53 by Sage
Yeah, but add SSL support and see what size it becomes!
Nobody says not to use Mozilla, Opera, Chrome products.
These can be selected and downloaded, if and when required, after the .iso is distributed. This can be implemented, for example, during first run or first browser selection, as already practised by some developers.


Posted on 10 Oct 2011, 18:37 by Dewbie
Opera
Box is a PII/350MHz, with Juno dialup.
Running ttuuxxx's opera-11.51-1087.i386.linux.pet:
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/2.14X/Software/
It's only 10MB.
(They're making Opera smaller nowadays.)

Tested with 2.14X, 4.1.2, 4.3.1, Wary 5.1.1.
Performance is snappy; similar to SM 1.1.18.

My only gripe:
It's a save-file hog.
Eats up 20-30MB per session.

However, after deleting all private data, then running filesystem check at next boot, I only lose about 1-2MB; same as SeaMonkey 1.1.18.



Posted on 10 Oct 2011, 23:21 by Terryphi
Opera empty cache
Empty cache every time you close browser:

Select in Opera:
Preferences>Advanced>History

Disc cache: "select empty on exit"
5mb is plenty big enough for cache size.


Posted on 10 Oct 2011, 24:20 by Dewbie
Re: Opera empty cache
Shortcut (on latest Opera version):
Settings / Delete Private Data / Detailed Options / Delete entire cache

Built-in Flashblock:
Settings / Preferences / Advanced / Content / Enable plug-ins only on demand

thadolius mentions Opera's user-agent switcher here:
http://www.bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02523