Racy 5.1.110 (5.2 beta2)

The latest and greatest Racy has arrived! Download from here:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/test/racy-5.1.110/

This has the new "first run" Quick Setup. If you would like to create a language translation file for it, please get the latest 'quicksetup' script from here (tiny changes from the one in Racy 5.1.110), gunzip it and place at /usr/sbin:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=72868

One difference from the previous Racy, is this time I put the Xorg 'nv' driver into the alternatives directory and left 'nouveau' in the main drivers directory. So, the latter will get used, and if you want to use 'nv' then you will have to run the Xorg Wizard.

Here is a Forum thread for feedback:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=576964#576964




Posted on 27 Oct 2011, 20:14


Comments:

Posted on 27 Oct 2011, 20:46 by BarryK
quicksetup bug
I already found a bug. This needs to be inserted at line 749:

[ ! -e /etc/localtime ] && DEF_TIMEZONE="" #111027 precaution.

I think that you will only hit this bug if you live in Western Australia.



Posted on 27 Oct 2011, 22:10 by linuxcbon
going to test it
I just downloaded it, going to test it.
Can you please merge wary, racy and quirky and puppy into one ?


Posted on 27 Oct 2011, 23:42 by Terryphi
1024x768 resolution
Setting resolution to 1024x768 is no better. It is necessary to use Xorgwizard and as I have stated before it sets the wrong parameters so the display is moved right about 1 cm. On my bog standard Intel hardware this can only be corrected by manually editing xorg.conf so that these settings in Section "Monitor" are thus:

HorizSync 30.0-80.0
VertRefresh 60.0-75.0

I don't see this problem on any other distro.





Posted on 28 Oct 2011, 2:19 by GCMartin
RACY RC
Barry, this RC of RACY is working well on my 1.8Ghz Athlon. OTB to desktop setuup.

Great.


Posted on 28 Oct 2011, 2:20 by GCMartin
RACY RC
Barry,

I like what you've done. And I can see some of the vision you have for us.

I don't think you feel that I'm trying to be thorny, but I do want to share something for you to consider.

What You and Shinobar presented and what 01Micko is using is a "first run" which is an essential system start.

What is a little different between them is the system needs layout.

Along with all of the other information, as a systems administrator, I consider Hostname of high importance.

You ARE presenting a reasonable approach to Hostname management. But there is a key difference between what is used by 01Micko and what you offer; namely, it is NOT apparent, anywhere, what this PC's hostname is. Its really buried 2 applications, and 3 levels deep for the management of it.
I know and can see your efforts to help. And your tools work flawlessly. But, its not apparent as what Shinobar's and 01Micko's presents its users.

So as a way of helping, might you consider making Hostname show up somewhere the current hostname. For example, it could be made more obvious in your Network Tool that you're helping us with. That would, at least, make current setting more apparent to the users.

I am not trying to be a stickler. I have been involved with networking systems for too many years. The abilty to know/find a system name is and to modify it is a key component of any system one wants to add to their LAN. And, many/most network tools/subsystems/applications use this very important piece of data. For us, in Puppyland, it would be in our best interest to allow Puppy to present this and the management of it as easy as possible for newbies and experienced alike.

I know you're addressing this. So take what I share as something to consider. Not as any demand.

Hope this helps.


Posted on 28 Oct 2011, 3:06 by DaveS
wifi no
Sadly I was unable to connect to my wifi network as my Broadcom module was not detected. Unable to force the module to load. No interface detected. Other setup stuff went really well and was very polished. I even had 2 barks at boot :)


Posted on 28 Oct 2011, 5:13 by broomdodger
glade icon still missing
glade icon still missing
Racy 5.1.110 with dev loaded

ThinkPad x30

Otherwise, excellent:
wireless - ok
vesa graphics - fast
compiles the apps I use - ok



Posted on 28 Oct 2011, 6:06 by rodin.s
savage driver found
Well. That's great. My savage card is found automatically and it's savage, not vesa. I have two cards. One built in i810 and another one is savage and not every Puppy can handle this.


Posted on 28 Oct 2011, 6:08 by mavrothal
kernel panic after encryption
It would appear that recent woof builds have problems with heavy encrypted savefiles.
When booting from CD and the save file is in an ext2/3 HD on first reboot there are no Desktop image and icons. It requires "gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders --update-cache" to fix.
When the save file is in a USB stick (vfat/ext3) then is much worse. You get kernel panic.
This is true for Slacko (see also http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=576929#576929) and Racy 5.1.110


Posted on 28 Oct 2011, 6:16 by scsijon
Blog Category
Maybe it's now time to add a Racy Category to your blog....


Posted on 28 Oct 2011, 8:12 by BarryK
Default auto X freq
The file /etc/X11/xorg.conf-auto-pc has this:

HorizSync 35-81
VertRefresh 56-76


Terryphi,
can you run 'xrandr' in a terminal, report what vertical refresh it is actually running at? -- before you apply your fix. -- then again after the fix.



Posted on 28 Oct 2011, 14:57 by Terryphi
1024x768
Barry, here is comparison:

BEFORE FIX

# xrandr
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096
VGA1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 376mm x 301mm
1024x768 70.1*+ 66.0 60.0
1280x1024 60.0 +
1280x960 60.0
1280x720 60.0
800x600 60.3 56.2
640x480 66.7 60.0
720x400 70.1

AFTER FIX
# xrandr
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096
VGA1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 376mm x 301mm
1024x768 75.1*+ 70.1 66.0 60.0
1280x1024 60.0 + 75.0
1280x960 60.0
1152x864 75.0
1280x720 60.0
832x624 74.6
800x600 72.2 75.0



Posted on 28 Oct 2011, 15:40 by Terryphi
1024x768 again!
Barry,
The fixed example I showed above was with xorg.conf setting of

HorizSync 40.0-80.0
VertRefresh 60.0-75.0

Changing settings to
HorizSync 30.0-80.0
VertRefresh 60.0-75.0
gives this xrandr result:

# xrandr

Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096
VGA1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 376mm x 301mm
1024x768 75.1*+ 70.1 66.0 60.0
1280x1024 60.0 + 75.0
1280x960 60.0
1152x864 75.0
1280x720 60.0
832x624 74.6
800x600 72.2 75.0 60.3
640x480 72.8 75.0 66.7 60.0
720x400 70.1




Posted on 28 Oct 2011, 18:00 by Terryphi
1024x768 compare
For further comparison here is xrandr for Linux Mint set to 1024x768 with refresh rate of 75mz on the same kit:

terry@mint:~$ xrandr

Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096
VGA1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 376mm x 301mm
1280x1024 60.0 + 75.0
1280x960 60.0
1152x864 75.0
1280x720 60.0
1024x768 75.1* 70.1 66.0 60.0
832x624 74.6
800x600 72.2 75.0 60.3 56.2
640x480 72.8 75.0 66.7 60.0
720x400 70.1


So
HorizSync 30.0-80.0
VertRefresh 60.0-75.0

which I arrived at by trial and error produces a good result on Racy/Wary for me. However, this needs testing on other hardware.




Posted on 28 Oct 2011, 23:58 by BarryK
Re frequencies
Ok, I think that I will change this:

HorizSync 35-81
VertRefresh 56-76

HorizSync 35-81
VertRefresh 59-76

...try that.

It might be that Xorg sees the lower vertical refresh value as 56 and thinks it is a low-quality monitor. But, that is very low quality, we don't run CRT monitors that low as too much flicker.

But, the lower value of 59, does that give you a good result?

Running this:
# gtf 1024 768 70
calculates horiz freq is 56KHz.

Or:
# gtf 1024 768 75
calculates horiz freq is 60.1KHz.

Both of these are within the ranges of all the above.



Posted on 29 Oct 2011, 3:06 by Terryphi
Frequencies
Barry,

HorizSync 35-81
VertRefresh 59-76

That works OK for me.




Posted on 29 Oct 2011, 8:12 by Raffy
AMD Fusion Test OK
Impressive - both network cards (AR8152 and BCM4313) are working and the RadeonHD 6310 display is set correctly at 1366x768 - testing eMachines D443 AMD Fusion E-350.


Posted on 29 Oct 2011, 8:16 by BarryK
Re frequencies
Good, I have made the change.

Note, the reason I set a max vertical refresh of 76 is because I have a 21 inch CRT monitor that reports via EDID that it can do 100Hz, so that is what Xorg drives it at, but that doesn't look very good, 75Hz looks better and has no noticeable flicker. Also I think 100Hz is pushing the CRT too hard, consuming more power, reducing it's life.



Posted on 29 Oct 2011, 8:18 by BarryK
Re eMachines
Raffy,
I have noted your reports of trouble with the eMachine, glad you are getting success now.



Posted on 5 Nov 2011, 6:14 by broomdodger
pmusic 2.2.1 released
zigbert recently released a new Pmusic Version 2.2.1
It fixed the problem on Racy I had with playlists forgetting.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=31206

Changelog
- Bugfix: Index music from a symlink dir (thanks to DaveS)
- Bugfix: Index with meta-tags doesn't work (thanks to DaveS)
- Bugfix: terminal output shows detected browser at startup (thanks to broomdodger)
- Bugfix: Track-info goes to albumart tab if no internet connection.
- Bugfix: Album art doesn't update when no internet connection.
- Bugfix: The playlist are not saved when starting pmusic_CD and Pmusic is open.