"The world is closing in!"


The title is quoting Iguleder here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=89272

Yes, I also was feeling oppressed with the direction of software dependencies, and general bloatedness. In fact, it was a factor that contributed to my decision to retire.

I did think along the same lines as Iguleder, but decided that it is too much work. But, if Iguleder, technosaurus, goingnuts and others can tackle it, this would be a great direction to take Puppy.

True lean-and-mean. I don't want to be coarse, but give the finger to what so many other software developers are doing.

I have always loved GTK 1.2, for it's speed and tiny size. To my mind, if font anti-aliasing is added, it could be resurrected.
There are a lot of dead GTK1-based projects out there, waiting to be resurrected also!

I am not saying that a lean-and-mean pup would have to go with GTK1, but it is definitely worth consideration.


Comments:

backwards comment sorting   Posted on 27 Nov 2013, 7:00 by disciple
Woah - someone's turned the world upside down.

antialiasing   Posted on 27 Nov 2013, 6:57 by disciple
I've never understood why people want to ruin GTK1 by making the fonts blurry. It only takes about 30 minutes for any form of antialiasing (i.e. including "cleartype") to give me pretty severe eye strain.

debian including Mate   Posted on 26 Nov 2013, 14:00 by dionicio
Debian is almost ready with Mate
in the next release.
GTK+2 and the biggest repository
on Linux.
At least up to 2017.

  Posted on 24 Nov 2013, 22:57 by aarf
there is this bit about fonts which i didnt look into or with understandinghttp://puppylinux.info/topic/infinality-ultimate-fonting

Xaw lib anti-aliased fonts   Posted on 24 Nov 2013, 17:33 by BarryK
There is a replacement for Xorg libXaw, with anti-aliased font support, named xaw3dxft:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/sf-xpaint/files/?source=navbar


GTK1 anti-aliased fonts   Posted on 24 Nov 2013, 17:18 by BarryK
The Puppy guys working on GTK1 probably already know about various ways that we achieved anti-aliased fonts.

There was this way, but it didn't work quite right in some apps:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=6890

...this was used in some early versions of Puppy. The project page is: http://gdkxft.sourceforge.net/

Other than that, there are some patches to the GTK source:

http://john.fremlin.de/programs/linux/gtk-font-hack/index.html
http://alx14.free.fr/gtkaa/
http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2001060400620NWGNSW

There's another one that I discovered some time ago... grrrr, can't find now.


bla   Posted on 24 Nov 2013, 1:24 by linuxcbon
I dont like to read comments like "we must blablabla". Just do it if you can.
I am following Iguleder work, it's good. He found a bug in gtk1 corrected in gtk2. But I could help him testing his thing.
If I find a programmer job in Australia, I come. France has become bad with much unemployment.
Cheers


Just a suggestion: Make the software design to survive. Re-establish standard   Posted on 23 Nov 2013, 20:10 by mistfire
In order to survive this situation, we must develop softwares which is build to last or its time reestablish standards. It is hard to build those standards, but these standards will become suitable for puppy and if you integrate the philosophy of convenience, easy, and user-friendly. This puppy will be no longer a linux distribution. Instead a stand-alone and independent OS with linux compatibility.