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puppy 3.00 releasedhttp://www.puppylinux.com/download/release-3.00.htm Get it from here: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... uppylinux/ A note for frugal installers -- there is still a little quirk. When do a frugal install to a subdirectory, using the 'psubdir' boot parameter, at first boot Puppy cannot find the 'zdrv_300.sfs' file. It is found after the pup_save file is created. Another quirk is that the zdrv file cannot be found if, when presented with a list of pup_save files, you choose '0' (none). I decided that these and some other issues are small enough not to hold up release of 3.00 final. Thanks to kirk for creating a .sfs of the kernel source. PaulBx1, I've put in your improved partview. Apologies to anyone else who contributed in some way but I haven't explicitly acknowledged in this Blog! Raffy
Great, Barry, I will post the news at http://puppylinux.orgvern72023
Very impressive Barry -upgrade went nicely, Mike
Thanks, i will download and install.Thanks to Puppy still i can use my old k6-2 400 Mhz like a new pc.  Henry
Barry
wrote: "Upgrading from earlier version of Puppy. No problem. If you run
Puppy from live-CD, just boot the new CD and Puppy will automatically
perform any required upgrading of your personal storage file/partition
(usually pup_save.2fs file)."This is what I keep hoping, but it hasn't happened in any of the ver 3s. All are similar in the problems I see. I have reported them all before, but feel some reports are getting overlooked because they get reported in various places. I hope you will again assign a SINGLE place for reporting problems for this version. That's why I'm writing here. To briefly summarize: My configuration file has been upgraded from 2.13 through 2.17.1 without problems. But in each iteration of version 3: Neither Seamonkey 1.08 or 1.12 (or any suite components) will run, although files for both are there. Should not 1.12 have replaced 1.08? Until I get Seamonkey running again I will of course not know if the problem running Enigmail has neen fixed. (I'm not going into that again here Abiword and text editing do not run. Such things are probably easily fixed by someone who knows how, not me. A small problem (not special to ver 3) that was reportedly fixed twice has not been: In Pdict and in Pfind one cannot use the "enter" key to enter the search term, but has to click on "Pdict" and "Search" respectively. Like many I look forward to each new step in Puppy's growth and know we will get past this. Thanks in advance. Henry linuxcbon
I am trying this 3.0 on another laptop and it is better than 2.17Network works finally on it and dhcp could find ip, but 2.17 never could. New icons look great. A problem at boot, when loading puppy to the ram with pfix=ram, it takes very long time ! Where can we write feedback and bugs etc for this new version ? Well done Barry  (ps comments get lost easily  )Henry
I forgot to include console responses in my previous post:# geanyshell geany: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory # # mozmail /usr/lib/seamonkey-1.1.2/seamonkey-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory # # seamonkey /usr/lib/seamonkey-1.1.2/seamonkey-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory # # abiword abiword: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory # Henry Leon
I reported Puppy 3.00 bugs in this tread:http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22255 Henry
OK! libstdc6++.so.6 was missing.I used PSI ti install libstdc6++.so.6.0.5.pup. That did it for everything (except the "enter" problem, which also applies to PSI). Henry cb88
ok i have installed 3.00 (frugal) and not grub will not boot it. It seems to have configured the grub menu.lst wrong the menu list says that windows is on hda8 fat32 but that is where puppy is and grub is in a separate linux partition hda5 ext2 get a kernel panic no init found Henry
Well,
may as well get it all out, so back to Enigmail, aka OpenPgp in
Seamonkey mail. A lot of Puppy users don't need this - some don't seem
to need printers or scanners either. But I use Gnupg in Eudora windows
everyday.To summarize: It has never worked for me in Seamonkey 1.08 or 1.12 in Puppy. I just tried the Enigmail extension in Puppy 3 (Seamonkey 1.12) and it could not be installed for "unexpected error -201" Then I installed the new Gslapt into Puppy 3 and thereby installed Seamonkey 1.14. This time the extension was accepted and OpenPgp appeared in the Seamonkey menu, but every time I touch it Seamonkey shuts down immediately, same as on previous attempts. Note: I previously got it to work _only_ when I downloaded Seamonkey 1.14 directly from the Mozilla site and manually, albeit clumsily installed it. So I think the Slackware package is leaving something out. On the other hand the PCLinuxOS Synaptic package installs and works great!(in PCLinuxOS). Is there a chance that someone could recompile Seamonkey 1.14 so this worked in Puppy, or would it be possible for me to use the PCLinuxOS rpm with "unrpm," or such. I'm out of my element here. Henry Raffy
Yes,
Henry, get/install the unrpm dotpup, put the rpm file in a folder then
in console "unrpm file.rpm". Copy the extracted files to the proper
folders.Barry, would you spare us some tips in humongous initrd creation in Puppy 3? This Puppy is going to school! Raffy
Yes,
Henry, get/install the unrpm dotpup, put the rpm file in a folder then
in console "unrpm file.rpm". Copy the extracted files to the proper
folders.Barry, would you spare us some tips in humongous initrd creation in Puppy 3? This Puppy is going to school! Henry
Thanks, Raffy,Guess I'm not too old to learn a bit of Linux. Sorry for taking up so much time here with things that I know are trivial compared with the major system advancements. Anyway, I simply installed the current Seamonkey 1.1.4 from the Mozilla site into /usr/lib/ and deleted things labeled 1.0.8 and 1.1.4 and all is well seemingly, except that 1.1.4 apparently takes up more space than Barry's 1.1.2, which is probably why it works with the add-on. Thanks, Barry, for a Linux that's fast and sturdy enough to stick with. Henry bodigi
gxine crushes all the timeJohn Doe
release notes look great.can't wait to try it out and mess with it a bit. the fall season is settling in here for the northern hemisphere and more time will soon be spent on puppy by me. been too busy riding my bicycle and fishing, to keep up. cb88
are
the reported gxine crashes due to xorg 7.2 i know that when i installed
beryl xorg 7.2 and 3D drivers gxine was not at all happy with that i
worked only if you didn't move the window around too muchJT
Is there a torrent to download 3.0? The normal download is [i]dog[/i] slow right now.rarsa
Hi Barry,After some time trying to have 3.0 booting on a virtual VMWare I found something that may be a hint for you and that may help you testing the kernel. When I use the version with the recent kernel, and loglevel=7 the boot process stops when it identifies the Floppy. If I use the retro kernel, it boots OK. My laptop does not have a physical floppy but It doesn't matter if i create a floppy image for the VMWare session. The new kernel won't boot. the retro kernel does. luck_gh0st (luck_gh0st<at>yahoo.com)
Puppy just gets better and better! Very good network wizard! I'm impressed that my WUSB54GC worked out of the box! |
3.00 final... when?Today I applied a fix for pcmcia posted by pakt. I propose to upload the 3.00final approximately 24 hours from now. I'm waiting on reports on a couple of things... the beta3 had dhcpcd rolled back to version 1.3.22, there is pakt's pcmcia fix (see here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22162). The final will have the Gnumeric plugins package restored in the live-cd. The betas did not have it -- but it is a PET package. I don't think anyone posted a anything about rc.network being "foregrounded" making any difference from "backgrounded". The beta1 and earlier had it backgrounded, beta2 and beta3 had it foregrounded. So, I'll go back to backgrounded for the final. Anything else... well, there will be a 3.01 Leon
1.
I noticed that forum member Matu mentioned a workaround to solve the
problem about frugal install with 'psubdir' parameter. I've done some
research and found that my sound and network adapters was properly
autodetected after I copied zdrv_222.sfs file to root directory on the
same drive where the subdirectory with other Puppy-3.00beta3 files
resides.This is Puppy-3.00beta3 section from my menu.lst: # Boot Puppy-3.00beta3 title Puppy-3.00beta3, idehd, Bp300b3 rootnoverify (hd0,4) kernel /Bp300b3/vmlinuz PMEDIA=idehd psubdir=Bp300b3 initrd /Bp300b3/initrd.gz boot 2. At boot I noticed that Puppy is searching for Puppy files significantly longer then in previous versions when the message 'Searching for Puppy files in computer disk drives' is shown on the screen. 3. After first boot Puppy created and saved a personal file named pup_save-1.2fs to /Bp300b2 subdirectory where Puppy-3.00beta2 instalation files reside although psubdir is set to 'psubdir=Bp300b3' subdirectory. After I manually moved the pup_save-1.2fs from /Bp300b2 to /Bp300b3 subdirectory and renamed it to pup_save.2fs there are no problem with boot anymore. 4. I still can't established my ADSL internet connection although my D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (rev.C) is autodetected. When trying to start connection Roaring Penguin stops with this message shown on the screen: Error starting connection: TIMED OUT The Network Wizard properly detect 1 alive 'eth0' network interface but can't make network connection. The problem with sound is solved. CUPS works without any problem with my HP LaserJet 4P printer. Gxine plays videos in FLV format significantly better then in previous versions. This Puppy seems to be very fast. Barry Kauler
Leon, are you sure that you have beta2 or beta3? There was a problem
with the link at one time, where a forum thread indicated beta2 but the
link was to beta1 download -- which got fixed I think.Leon
Barry, I installed beta2 to /Bp300b2 and beta3 to /Bp300b3 subdirectory from this iso files:/Bp300b2 /mnt/home/Bp300b2/puppy-3.00beta2-222-seamonkey.iso /Bp300b3 /mnt/home/Bp300b3/puppy-3.00beta3-2.22-seamonkey.iso Both subdirectories have pup_222.sfs file in them. I suppose that beta3 found pup_222.sfs in /Bp300b2 prior to /Bp300b3 subdirectory and ignored the value of 'psubdir=Bp300b3' parameter. grndoor
Hard Drive Install from Puppy-3.00beta2:As posted by Crash on Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:24 am on: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto "With a full install on a hard drive, the partition is not locked. MUT thinks you can mount it, which is OK, but it also thinks you can unmount it, which leads to really interesting results. GParted doesn't see the partition locked either." I have also found this on two separate machines with IDE (ATA) internal Hard Drives. Running the "mount" command shows: rootfs on / type rootfs (rw) /dev/root on / type reiserfs (rw) none on /proc type proc (rw) shmfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw) none on /sys type sysfs (rw) none on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) On both machines the partition to which Puppy is installed does not show up. Interestingly, a hard drive install to "/dev/sde2" on an all scsi machine (Compaq Proliant 1600) shows up correctly in Mut and partially correctly in "mount": rootfs on / type rootfs (rw) /dev/sde2 on / type reiserfs (rw) none on /proc type proc (rw) shmfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw) none on /sys type sysfs (rw) [no functioning USB on the Proliant] I had to use "puppyinstaller-217" to install to the scsi Hard Drives. It would be desirable to retain this installer in in the forthcoming Puppy-3.00. On the Proliant and other scsi Hard Drive machines I use a small cpio boot initramfs file to load the scsi drivers. The initramfs file is easily generated from the scsi modules contained within the "zdrv_222.sfs" file using a slightly modified mkinitramfs archive from the Pardus Linux distribution. Full details will follow later. Sage
grndoor has solved the scsi boot problem!Can this be incorporated easily in 3.0? Tony
Hi Barry, sorry can't do any more testing for a while as my M.B died last night before I could check the Beta3. Good luck.Tony (AKA veronicathecow) Leon
Barry,This is /root/.etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE file from Puppy-3.00beta3 frugal install with 'psubdir=Bp300b3' parameter. PUPMODE=12 PDEV1='hda5' DEV1FS='vfat' PUPSFS='hda5,vfat,/Bp300b3/pup_222.sfs' PUPSAVE='hda5,vfat,/Bp300b3/pup_save.2fs' PMEDIA='idehd' SATADRIVES='' #these directories are unionfs layers in /initrd... SAVE_LAYER='/pup_rw' PUP_LAYER='/pup_ro2' #The partition that has the pup_save file is mounted here... PUP_HOME='/mnt/dev_save' #(in /initrd) ...note, /mnt/home is a link to it. #this file has extra kernel drivers and firmware... ZDRV='hda5,vfat,/zdrv_222.sfs' PSWAPFILE='hda5,vfat,/bpg200a4/pupswap.swp' 1. Zdrv file is set to /zdrv_222.sfs but it should be set to /Bp300b3/zdrv_222.sfs. 2. It's interesting then swap file is set to PSWAPFILE='hda5,vfat,/bpg200a4/pupswap.swp' where Grafpup frugal installation files reside although another /mnt/home/pupswap.swp swap file exists in the root directory. BarryK
[blockquote]"With a full install on a hard drive, the partition is not
locked. MUT thinks you can mount it, which is OK, but it also thinks
you can unmount it, which leads to really interesting results. GParted
doesn't see the partition locked either."[/blockquote]MUT is maintained by Jesse, so that would have to raised with him. I maintain Pmount. Jesse
Hi Barry & co,Theres a few simple config settings for Mut in the top of the mut.tcl file, for example, directories that can't be unmounted. Maybe add in the one for /mnt/home if thats the offending one? I don't think I've done a hard-drive install (recently) of puppy so I'm not so sure how thats supposed to work these days. Jesse Ron
Testing in vmware, Beta3 is the first version to complete booting in a
new vm. Betas & alpha before would hang immediately after detecting
floppy drive. (running puppy with loglevel=7).SouthPaws (jaguar1<at>netzero.net)
Hey Barry I don't know if this would be of any use or not...(something I came across)http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/550 DigitalCrypto
Latest Beta 3 was missing UUID Dbus ID.It wasn't a problem to gen manually and remove dashes. Don't know if this was addressed. Looks good otherwise. MooDog
Hi, Barry-There's a new update for Flash 9, which came out on 1st October. Shall we include this in the final? http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/ Don cb88
does puppy 3.0beta have the RTL8187 aka r8187 driver built in? if it does i may have a chance t try it out tomorrow...any tips on getting that wg111v2 working with that driver would be welcome just PM me cb88
barry the 3.00 you just uploaded doesn't boot in virtualbox eitheri'll try it some more out later doesn't finish booting with or without formated virtual disk attached with or without a pup_save.sfs puppy loglevel=7 didn't reveal any problems either it just stops at perform a switch root seems that 2.17 suffers of this as well... I must admit it is strange because 2.17 and 3.00 have booted fine on real PC's at least in my experience maybe it is a kernel incompatability but not likely Barry Kauler
blockquote]Latest Beta 3 was missing UUID Dbus ID.It wasn't a problem to gen manually and remove dashes. Don't know if this was addressed.[/blockquote] DigitalCrypto, I don't know anything about dbus, I just threw it in becaause it is a dependency in slackware 12. Would you mind giving details on exactly what you did, and why? Barry Kauler
Jesse,I think you would have to run 'df' and see that if it is a partition mounted on '/' then it cannot be unmounted. The full install is just a normal Linux hd install, so a partition would be on '/'. Jesse
Hi Barry,Yup, Mut does that, but uses output from 'mount' instead of df. However the / mount point partition is not listed in the 'mount' output for IDE hard disk installs, as grndoor pointed out above. Perhaps this is a script not quite processing the mount-FULL output correctly? Jesse |
Here is the 'after' snapshot It's stacked high showcasing the products and attractions of the Midwest. Agriculture is the mainstay, but mining is coming on-stream. In fact the entire northern half of Western Australia is enjoying a mining boom, mostly due to demand from China for raw materials. An iron-ore mine is to be built north-east of Perenjori soon, and other mines further north are already in production. You can't see the details in the photo, but it has a complete model open-cut iron mine, with toy machinery -- the guys who built this are really a bunch of big kids! I'm quite enjoying this work, but it's highly physical on the go all day which I'm not accustomed to, and the problem is by the time I get to sit down in front of my PC to work on the Puppy project I'm dog-tired. And my fuse is short, as someone on the forum found out yesterday. Anyway, I'll keep at it, and aim to fix any show-stopper bugs in the beta2 and get the final out without too much delay. This job I've got is only temporary, until the 6th of October, although they may want me to help pull everything down on the day after the Show finishes. Then back onto Puppy full-time! Sage
Bit disappointing, I'm afraid, Barry!That circular orifice - I was expecting to see a steaming cyanide bath for gold extraction (and disposing of cats!). Or even a shearing pit with spectators sitting on the shelves now displaying produce..... PrairieDog
Reminds me of the 4H booth at the state fair when I was a kid!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4h That mostly dealt with cattle,pigs,and corn though. Next we'll expect a shot of you in your Pavilion Steward regalia! |
The Perth Royal Show These guys spend a week building it, it goes on display for a week, then they have to pull it down. Tomorrow is the judging ...yes, they are competing for a trophy. I get there at 7.30am and the judging will be at 9.00am. I'll take another snapshot of the finished product. The public get in the day after, Saturday the 29th, and I get to stand around wearing a white coat. Find out more: http://www.perthroyalshow.com.au/ |
Puppy 3.00beta2 availablehttp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... 3.00beta2/ It is disguised as version 2.22. The patched kernel source is here: http://puptrix.org/sources/kernel-2.6.21.7-pup300/ Hm, its 4am. I have to leave for work at 6.30am, so better get some sleep! (it's not that bad, I did have a nap between 11pm and 1am while waiting for PET packages to upload) cb88
barry if i remember correctly you just upgraded gcc right? I have
noticed that there are a few programs that don't like gcc 4.x. so will
the old compilers still work in puppy 3.xx just rename ths sfs or would
it be better to make a more generic gcc 3.x that will work ok in all
the puppies? is that possible or not even needed?Leon
Barry,This Puppy boots smoothly and works fast. It seems promising. Thank you for considering our suggestions. There are only two major problems left. 1. D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (rev.C) I can't establish Internet connection using Roaring Penguin PPPoE ADSL when set 'Ethernet Interface' to 'eth0' as in previous versions. 2. Intel(r)82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller I can't setup ALSA sound. I had none of this problem with previous versions including Puppy 2.17.1. edoc
Just downloaded 3.00Beta2 and booted my Panasonic Toughbook CF-28 using "Puppy pfix=ram for a clean boot (we tested the prior 3.00 Betas on this machine and I wanted to avoid any old debris. This laptop is currently loaded with Win2000Pro. The prior two versions worked fine. This one failed at the video setup. I chose xorg then C h31.5-48.5v40-70 LCD Panel 1024-768 It was flagged as the Unconfirmed Maximum for monitor, OK for card. I chose TEST and since I am using only the touchpad left the mouse setting at ps/2. The display shows some weird color patterns near the top then opened to a Linux/Shark/Seabird background. Since I was typing my observations here I didn't hit CTRL-ALT-Backspace within 60 seconds so it went to a weird mostly green pattern across the top of the LCD and then only a Hard Reset (Power down & back On) would break out. I walked through the process again but this time hit the CTRL-ALT-Backspace sequence quickly and despite more of the weird green lines and other visual debris a couple of pop-up windows later the Puppy was barking and all appeared well! I went ahead and did a Frugal install then to set up GRUB. From inside Geany I could find no BOOT folder anywhere (yes, I toggled on Show Hidden Files). I use Home to check the directories and finding no /boot/grub I created them and then created menu.lst with the correct code. Then I removed the CD and rebooted - choosing all of the defaults to create a pup_save.2fs file on hda1 and copying the pup_222.sfs to HDD. Reboot to GRUB failed and so I hit Enter to continue as insructed and was booted to Win2000Pro ... yuck! I rebooted and allowed the CD to boot "normally". I can see /boot/grub/menu.lst and all looks OK but my laptop doesn't see it on reboot. What do I need to do to force GRUB to be seen? How do we fix this so that a newbie not be scared off by the levels of complexity in creating a Frugal install? Thanks! edoc BarryK
edoc, for a frugal installation, GRUB is not installed, and I don't
recall anywhere in the installation process where there is any
suggestion to the contrary. There is information displayed on how you
can add the appropriate menu entry to an existing GRUB installation.You can add an entry if you already have GRUB installed. If not, you would have to install it, and one way is to use the GRUB-config menu entry in the system menu. GRUB is not installed, as many people have other boot managers such as LILO and can add menu entries to those. Linux newbies scared off? Anyone doing a frugal or full Linux hard drive install is expected to know something about one of the boot managers, or use a boot floppy. Otherwise they should stick to running from live-CD or Flash drive. The Flash drive works really well, very simple, in fact I'm running off one right now. Leon, please run Roaring Penguin from a terminal and report any error messages. BarryK
Leon, when you state that you "can't setup alsa sound", what do you
mean? Was sound auto-detected in previous puppies? In this beta2 are
there sound modules loaded? (run lsmod).BarryK
A forum thread for beta2 feedback:http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22089 BarryK
cb88, I don't know if you can use the old gcc 3.x in Puppy 3.00. For a
start, it would hve to be compiled to use the new glibc 2.5. If you
have such an application (that won't compile), go back to Puppy 2.17 or
earlier and compile it there. It will likely still work in pup 3.00. I
haven't found any apps that won't compile so far.Mark S
From Mark-1st time responder-been using Puppy 2+ years.On 2 computers I can't establish Internet connection using my normal auto DHCP. It just keeps cycling never setting up a connection. They both say they see connection link, though. Always worked before until 3.00 beta 1, same inop with beta 2. Gateway 2100 with eepro100 card Dell GX260 with 3c59x card. ><> Thanks, Mark Leon
Barry,I posted my answers to your questions at the forum. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto |
Idiot spammerSo, if you try to post, legitimate post, and it fails, it could be due to having a banned word. Unlikely, as there are only two banned words so far. Tony
Hi Barry, I hate these people as well. Perhaps I'm wrong to do this but
I usually post them a few dozen copies of some lovely large scenery
pictures I have taken linuxblues
But then again spam smells so good when it's cooking!Pleasant Puppy review please follow the link. http://(www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/puppy_linux_fast_yet_full_featured) Barry and gang "Gung Ho" The funnest distro on the planet. linuxblues tony
Thank you barry, I won't open mouth again, no bark.linuxblues
Oops!Sorry about the link mess up! Pleasant Puppy review please follow the link. (http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/puppy_linux_fast_yet_full_featured) linuxblues |
Verbose bootupThere are two factors determining verbosity. One is that the 'init' script redirects most screen output to a logfile. The second is the kernel loglevel, and I have patched the kernel to a value of 3, which is very low verbosity. If you pass the boot parameter 'loglevel=7', not only does that increase the kernel verbosity, but the init script sees that there is a boot 'loglevel' parameter and does not redirect to a logfile, but lets all stdout and stderr go to the screen. Flash
Cool idea, Barry. I'd suggest your comment, "For lots of output to the
screen while booting, use 'loglevel=7' for the boot screen where the
list of boot parameters is. In one simple sentence it says clearly what
that boot parameter does and suggests its range of arguments.Pizzasgood
"but the init script sees that there is a boot 'loglevel' parameter and
does not redirect to a logfile, but lets all stdout and stderr go to
the screen."Does that mean we can pass loglevel=3 to make it to stop redirecting the output without increasing the actual verbosity? Not that it matters, I'm just an overly curious person Actually, it could matter now that I think about it. If someone uses an old menu.lst file that includes loglevel=3 for some reason, that would make it output everything. Let's see... yep, mine has that. I don't remember if I put it there myself or if it got added automatically by the installer. I think I might have copied it from the isolinux.cfg file at some point. |
NoteCase 1.6.9pre7Although this is not the 1.6.9final, I'll put it into pup 3.00beta2. I think that I've just about got beta2 ready. Puppy-development has slowed down considerably since yesterday, but things are still happening. I think that beta2 will be uploaded about 24 hours from now. Leon
Barry,Please check also the problems with Chooselocale country localization. 1. Timezone was not set to 'GMT+1' and country localization was not set to 'sl-SI' after I choosed 'slovene' keyboard at first boot. 2. The locale files can't be fetched from zdrv file. When 'FETCH' button is pressed this message is shown on the screen: "Sorry, but there does not appear to be a connection to the Internet. This program needs to download locale files off the Internet. Connect to the Internet then click the OKAY button..." http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto AlfonsoL
BarryI copied the isolinux.cfg from 2.15 CE to 3.0 betha (kernel 2.6.21.7) with ISOMaster file editor and I was able to start puppy on my DELL latitude CPi A, I'm running it, right now. Please change it. Barry Kauler
AlfonsoL, change what? isolinux.cfg is just a text file. What is the content of the one that works for you?Barry Kauler
Leon,3.00 has gone back to the way 2.16 and earlier work. The keyboard layout dialog does not set timezone or locale. You have to click the 'setup' icon on the desktop to do that. Barry Kauler
Also, chooselocale now must have an Intenet connection to download locales as they are not in zdrv.Leon
Barry,Thank you for the explanation about Chooselocale. I hope that beta2 will solved my network problem and I'll be able to establish ADSL Internet connection via my D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (rev.C) as in previous versions. AlfonsoL
BarryI copied all the file isolinux.cfg, only one line is different. This don't work "append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=cd" this is OK "append root=/dev/ram0 initrd=initrd.gz loglevel=3 PMEDIA=idecd" Barry Kauler
'root=/dev/ram0' and 'loglevel=3' make no difference.The only thing that perhaps could be a factor, though it seems strange, is 'pmedia=idecd' instead of 'pmedia=cd'. |
rc.network back to foregroundGeorgR
Veronica missed everthing: sound and network. So I asume it was the missing zdrv file problem of beta 1 - because I made the same experience. With the correct zdrv file everthing is running very well. So please give us the speed of the backgrounded network. PaulBx1
Maybe have both, with a boot flag? pfix=slowboot, with fast
(backgrounded) being default? Everything is solved by a boot flag. Tony (Aka Veronicathecow)
Hi
Barry, GeorgR might be right about that although backgrounding in the
past did give me a similar problem (Not sure if it was exactly the
same.)Also after not getting any sound or network I did not check further if other drivers were missing. Boot switches sounds a good idea. Cheers mate Tony Leon
Me too had none of this problem with previous versions including Puppy 2.17.1 that works perfectly.1. D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (rev.C) I can't establish Internet connection using Roaring Penguin PPPoE ADSL when set 'Ethernet Interface' to 'eth0' as in previous versions. 2. Intel(r)82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller I can't setup ALSA sound. I saved the reports made with PupScan when using Puppy 2.17.1 and Puppy-p3.00beta so you can see the differences with TkDiff. I attached the archive to my post at: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto pakt
Barry, I thought we had fixed the 'ifplugstatus' problem. Ref:http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=21182 Barry Kauler
pakt, yes, I thought it was fixed, but just to be absolutely sure,
beta2 will have rc.network 'foregrounded'. If everyone reports no
difference then the final will definitely be 'backgrounded'.The problem is, I think that I did some tests with ifplugstatus, running it in a terminal: # ifplugstatus /dev/eth0 # ifplugstatus /dev/eth0 & ...on certain hardware they return different results (and I know, it doesn't make sense). My memory is not quite clear on this though, so I want to do this final check with beta2. |
Endless version-upgrades fixedBlackAdder reported "Tried an upgrade from 2.17 to 3.0B ( alias 2.21) on USB flash drive. Puppy thinks it is an upgrade on every subsequent reboot, and goes through the upgrade motions each time." I fixed it. GeorgR
Another last minute Bug before next beta is coming:Booting puppy 3 on a computer with AMD 690G chipset ends with message "puppyserialdetect is running". I am aware of the problems I have to expect due to the "new" chipset but stopping booting already at this point seems to early. Do I have an option to let puppy show more detailed booting information on the screen? PaulBx1
There is "pfix=debug", but I don't think that has worked for a while.
It doesn't do anything in 3.00, that I can tell. Sure would like that
fixed; it would make all these boot problems more solvable.Oberon85 (Oberon85<at>gmail.com)
Just did a frugal install of 3.0 next to 2.17.1 on my hd. Running
great! good sound, networking, appearance, and boots to the highest
resolution my laptop can show!thanks for great work! Oberon J_Rey
See
our Boot Parameters wiki page for normal debug boot options and if
someone wants to contribute what [pre]pfix=#debug[/pre] actually does
or has other updates, please feel to register on the wiki and edit the
page appropriately.GeorgR
Nothing new information with pfix=#debug option while booting an AMD 690G Chipset.I tried again puppy 220 because I am able to enter terminal commands with pressing ctrl c after puppy is hanging with message "puppyserialdetect is running". (With 300 there is only a reaction when pressing ctrl alt del) I found a lot of logfiles but at first look no special hint for this dead loop situation when booting. Any tip which file to check to come closer to the point? AlfonsoL (falfonsolb<at>yahoo.com.mx)
Hi Barry.I copied the isolinux.cfg from 2.15 CE to 3.0 betha (kernel 2.6.21.7) with ISOMaster file editor and I was able to start puppy on my DELL latitude CPi A, I'm running it, right now. I hope this help you to fix it. Great job, Barry. PaulBx1
No wonder I couldn't get pfix=debug to work.  Strange it was done with a pound sign. I assume there must be a good reason. Georg, it looks like there is another boot parameter, loglevel=7. Might be worth a try. Also if you can get 220 out of the hang, the last thing in the logs should tell what boot step it was working on. You'd need to look at the boot script to figure out what was next. Did we really have a 220? Guess I missed that... Huckfin
slightly OT, but what is a "Pavilion steward?"Barry Kauler
Kind of like a flight steward, except I'm in a pavilion. And I don't serve food or bring pillows.Barry Kauler
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PRename upgradedcb88
barry I PMed you my error messages on the murga forum seems that pppd is now the only thing preventing connection as the modem is now working any thoughts on how to improve connection speed? cb88
if any of you guys have an lt modem that is not working try #depmod #modprobe ltmodem #modprobe ltserial then use pupdial or whatever Subito Piano
Don't know where else to put this, but maybe this something to keep an eye on? machboot
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Jwmconfig volunteer neededI want to get rid of the 'gtkdialog' executable. Puppy currently has three different (incompatible) versions of this program, gtkdialog, gtkdialog2 and gtkdialog3. I want to retain just the last two. I have been going through and finding what still uses the old gtkdialog executable, and Jwmconfig does. My request is for someone to to get the 'jwmconfig-1jul07.pet' package off ibiblio and install it in 3.00beta and then fix it to work with gtkdialog3. Note, 3.00beta has 'jwmconfig-5may07-1.pet', which is also on ibiblio, but awhile back I created the '1jul07' version with some mods to work better with JWM2 -- but I forgot to select that one for the beta. If anyone wants to volunteer, could you post here to let everyone know? MU? zigbert? linuxcbon
Sorry if it is not the correct place :proposition for future puppy : 1 Keep only usefull progs : Gtail not so usefull ? Same for Regexpviewer. Gdmap not so usefull. Same for prename . 2 Keep only one program to do one thing : One editor is enough ? uxplor. why 2 file finders ? 2 files editors ? 2 calculators ? 2 cd ripper ? 2 dvd writer ? Keep only one prog to do all theme settings. 3 Many progs in PETget package manager : Maybe they can be classified into categories ? Barry Kauler
linuxcbon, this question has been asked many times in the past.
Firstly, some of those apps you don't want, others like very much.
Scondly, some of the duplicate apps are so small that it makes
virtually no difference o the size of the iso file -- so I have opted
to give people choice where it doesn't impact the live-cd size.Note, uXplor has gone in 3.00. linuxcbon
thanks for your answer, I will try to come with better questions WN2A
duplicate apps help with hardware issues (at least one will work,usually).Original topic- still a C newbie here. But learning. dvw86
Barry,I have already written a Jwmconfig application in murgaLua if you were interested. Just let me know and I will update it and finish it for you. zigbert
I'll take a lookzigbert
done. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=142482 PaulBx1
Barry, is this going to break dotpups, etc. that use gtkdialog? Maybe better keep it, unless it is really huge...cb88
or
write a script that detects if a dotpup needs gtkdialog then prompt the
user to install it and give the option to do it automatically would
that even save space?
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Dialup bugfix, please test# modprobe -vn crc-ccitt # modprobe -vn zlib-deflate ...then try dialing the Internet. Jim
# modprobe -vn crc-ccitt# modprobe -vn zlib-deflate ...then try dialing the Internet. Dialup works now Jim rerwin
While you are addressing connectivity issues, could you replace the
DHCP daemon (dhcpcd) with an older version (1.3.22 or 2.0.4 from
slackware), to avoid the MAC-address misidentification issue I
described in the Bugs forum, http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto?It is a showstopper for me because I do not feel safe running the new Puppys while a telecommuter is on the same LAN; IT dept. sometimes blames a problem on my router -- the misbehavior exposes Puppy to be an apparent possible "cause". Thanks. wolf pup
i
cant test 3,00 beta, because grub gives error 13 unsupported executable
format + md5sum of 3.00 beta is wrong. ill try downloading again today.
cb88
barry i think it is a problem with my modem getting detected it is an ltmodem device id 0x0440 vendor id 0x11c1 (int) i beleive that the modem is a fujitsu (also googled the id and seems to confirm that) some other parts are also fujitsu made those are the ids that pupscan reports in 2.16 where dialup is working i tried the commands above but no change 3.00beta still no dialup for me is there any other information i could send you to help it would be nice if pupscan could have an option to output all the data to a gziped file perhaps even include dogal's hardware test in it BarryK
cb88, 11c1:0440 should have been recognised as an ltmodem, so you
should have the ltserial and ltmodem modules loaded after bootup. Type
'lsmod' in a terminal and find out.BarryK
cb88, I looked at the pppd crashing log that you sent me. What I posted
at the beginning of this thread fixes that exact problem.tempestuous
rerwin,Yes, dhcpcd-3.1.4 which I contributed here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto has misbehaved with certain hardware. This is the problem with updating packages; we optimistically think that the new versions will be better ... then often discover they have some new problem. I see that version 3.1.5 is out - http://dhcpcd.berlios.de/ Do we trust it? If we revert to an older version, be careful; when Puppy 2.17 was released it had a new kernel with newer wireless extensions, and we discovered that the version of dhcpcd carried over from Puppy 2.16 could cause a freeze with certain wifi adaptors. Older versions are here - http://developer.berlios.de/project/sho and maybe an older version will be OK if it's compiled in an environment with the correct wireless extensions headers ... but it's difficult to know how many versions older we should use. PaulBx1
Barry, in the middle of this page:http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto Firefox had trouble with a missing "libcrypto" link, I believe in the context of dialup, although I think he was working with packaged dialers rather than standard Puppy ones. You might want to include this link in your dialup fixes. Barry Kauler
PaulBx1, yes, I have already put that libcrypto symlink into puppy, just forgot to mention it on this blog.PrairieDog
# modprobe -vn crc-ccitt# modprobe -vn zlib-deflate Fixed Dialup here too! |
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More multisession bugfixes
I've fixed a couple of niggly little long-time issues.There was something strange if decided not to save a session, a message came up stating could remove the CD before shutdown, but then another message came up wanting it back. There was a problem when the CD/DVD gets full and have to migrate to a new blank CD/DVD. The new CD/DVD wasn't getting created properly. I discovered this problem just by examining the code, and have not yet actually tested it. There's a message displayed in blue text, "IF STOPPED AT THIS MSG, MAKE SURE TRAY IS CLOSED THEN PRESS THE ENTER KEY:". I introduced this awhile back, for reasons I can't exactly remember. I think there was some issue about the tray opening then closing, which in the case of a laptop has to be done manually. The thing is though, I'm not getting that spurious open-then-close thing anymore. I would like to get feedback after the beta2 is released, whether that message is needed anymore. If you remember anything about that mesage and why you needed it, let me know, and in particular let me know if the beta2 doesn't need it anymore. |
Multisession working'Leon' and 'ICPUG' suggested that if a 'psubdir' boot parameter is passed, then Puppy should only look in that directory for a pup_save file. Okay, done. Yesterday I had a pleasant surprise when I went to the Post Office -- two parcels waiting. I like opening surprise parcels. Ian had read in this blog that I don't have any CD-RWs, so he sent me a ten-pack, plus three compact DVD-Rs. The other parcel was from Chris, who sent me ...wait for it... a book of poetry, that he himself had written! Chris also wrote on my behalf to Senator Helen Coonan, regarding my mediocre Internet access -- she actually replied, said reply forwarded to me in the parcel. Well, it looks like one of those standard letters where the blanks get filled in -- it was actually one of her underlings that replied. Chris also included a few CDs with assorted software. Guys, you're too kind! Monday 24th I start work, and I'm not sure if I'll have the beta2 ready. If not, I'll try and put in at least a couple of hours each evening and hopefully get it out by the 25th or 26th. There are still a few things on the to-do list, especially dialup seems non-functional, from user feedback. |
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I'm
on the trail of the bugs preventing multisession-Puppy from working.
V3.00 alpha and beta testers reported unable to save a session back to
the CD/DVD. Well, I found the cause, and it is strange. 3.00alpha/beta has the cdrtools package from Slackware 12, version 2.01.01a23. This has the 'cdrecord' and 'mkisofs' utilities. It was an oversight, I did not upgrade the dvd+rw-tools package, still using the version from Puppy 2.17 -- this has the 'growisofs' utility. To save a session to a DVD, the shutdown script executes growisofs, which in turn calls mkisofs. What I found is that the mkisofs utility simply doesn't work. It just exits with " mkisofs has failed: 0".I tried some tests with mkisofs, it just wouldn't work, so I substituted the mkisofs from Puppy 2.17, and voila, we're in business! Puppy 2.17 has cdrtools v2.01.01a10, so same minor version number, just a difference in the alpha number. Hah hah, I complained recently that one of my scipts was broken as the output from 'cdrecord -scanbus' had changed -- well it changed somewhere between the alpha number 10 and 23, so the author is not beyond making fundamental changes from one alpha release to the next. I did a google on "mkisofs has failed", and surprise, found my own blog post back in May 4th this year: http://www.puppylinux.com/news/index.ph ... 505-075947 ...so, I had forgotten, I already discovered that mkisofs has, as I commented then "gone down the drain". I have fixed one bug, but have not yet got multisession working, as although a session gets saved there is still a bug at bootup -- will tackle that next. |
Various little fixes and improvements'8-bit' reported that the Samba utility 'smbspool' is required to access a Windows network printer. Well, no, it isn't small, it's 830K, but perhaps this is an important utility to have so I put it in. 'rarsa' has a directory at the top level in a hard drive partition that is named "2007-07-10 Vacaciones Mexico", which Puppy thinks is a multisession folder, then suffers from a kernel panic as it isn't. Should Puppy even be looking on a hard drive for a multisession folder? Yes, I want to explore another mode of storage to hd. A multisession folder has a name like this:, '2007-09-21-06-52', and I have refined the code to look for exactly that format. 'PaulBx1' reported one small issue with a shutdown message, "pup_save.2fs mounted directly top layer, session already saved.", that might cause confusion if the user is using a pup_save with a different name. So, I have modified the message to display the exact name of the pup_save file. |
'Making filesystem usable' fail bugfixI found the bug in the rc.sysinit script. Actually, it is not really a fail, just a false alarm. Note, this bug only occurs on PCs without any Linux swap partition. The PCs that I normally use for testing Puppy all have Linux swap partitions, so I didn't get that bug. However today I tested on my oldest PC, which has a Cyrix 8x86 CPU, 128MB RAM, and a single FAT partition on the hard drive. That's when the bug showed up and I was able to track it down. However, I think a couple of people reported getting a 'fail' at the 'performing switch_root' message. Unfortunately I cannot reproduce that one, but I'll study the code carefully. After all, the bug that I found in the rc.sysinit script was a silly little thing that was just staring me in the face and I didn't see it. My old Cyrix PC has a quirk, and I don't recall this happening before. Perhaps it is an Xorg 7.2 thing. It uses the 'sis' video driver, and when running the Xorg Wizard and I choose the 'TEST' button, it works but I have to press CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE twice to terminate X. Pressing once, it stays in graphics mode with just the mouse cursor displayed. So, I've added this information to the Xorg Wizard, informing that on some old PCs it may be required to press that key combination twice. Crash
This bug was bugging me until I read your post here. I don't usually
use a swap file. I made one with GParted and now 3.00 Beta boots to a
full install on the hard drive in 20 seconds flat!
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Multimedia upgradeshenry also mentioned using PSI to install an extra codecs package. However, please note that earlier codecs packages may install to /usr/lib/win32, whereas now it must be /usr/lib/codecs -- all the distros have moved to this new directory name. PETget package manager will install a correct extra-codecs package, but even if you have a "wrong" one, no problem, just rename the directory. I got Gxine working with my laptop. What happened was, I tried Xine-ui, which is an Xlib-based media player and got the same crash when tried to play a DVD. I experimented and found that the cause is XV mode of playback. When I chose Xshm it worked. XV gives higher performance, but note if you use Xvesa then XV is not available and you have to use Xshm -- which Gxine and Xine-ui both detect automatically. However when running Xorg, they try to use XV. In both players, run the setup and choose 'Advanced' options then manually set to Xshm, save, then restart the player and all is well. Plays nicely on my laptop, no jerkiness. For those who would like some choice, I have made Xine-ui into a PET package. Forum member 'ArnaudN' has also been testing the 3.00beta and has reported the Pause etc controls for playing a video at youtube.com do not work. This problem is due to the latest Flash player being used in Puppy ...now, this is going to set me off grumbling (another thing that will set me off is mention of how the kernel keeps changing and breaking things). We had a Flash9 player in Puppy 2.17 and I think it was about 6MB. Well, this latest has climbed to 7MB, yet is still buggy -- in fact nonfunctional. The older Flash7 player is only 2MB, yet works fine with youtube. I've taken Puppy back to the Flash7 player. If anyone wants/needs a Flash9 player then they can of course install it. There is an open-source Flash plugin under development and hopefully that will mature enough sometime soon. It's a wild guess... that a different person or team of people wrote the Flash9 player than whoever wrote the Flash7 player. Whoever they are ...well, I'll restrain myself from further comments. I continue the love affair with Notecase, the superb outliner application. It still isn't 100% bug free -- I made some text bold, also changed text color to green, but next time I looked at the document the formatting was gone. What is really great though is that the document is stored in SGML format, which is a super-set of XML or HTML, so I opened in a text editor and quickly found that NoteCase did not save the formatting tags properly -- it was easy to fix. NoteCase mostly gets text formatting right, but there's a hiccup sometimes when saving. Note, I'm keeping my Puppy project notes in a NoteCase document, and when I say that formatting was lost, I don't mean for all of the document, just occasionally on a particular highlighted text that I applied some bold and color to. Note, even images get encoded as text and embedded in the one document. Change of plan! My job at the Perth Royal Show is no longer Gatekeeper for the horse section. Here in Australia there is currently a scare about Equine Influenza -- this is a horse flue that is over most of the world but not in Australia -- until recently. A horse from Japan managed to infect some other horses in Australia, even though the horse was in a government quarantine station and the infected horses weren't. It quickly spread. Anyway, how it affects me is they decided to up the security at the horse gate -- two trained security guards will be on the gate. I was offered an alternative job, as 'pavilion steward', which basically entails 'minding' one of the display pavilions. I have to start work on the 24th, even though the Show commences on the 29th, as exhibitors will be moving stuff in -- I have to make sure stuff goes in and nothing goes out! It won't affect the Puppy project, as I'll still have evenings free, just that my input will slow down somewhat. cb88
ok just a little info for ya 3.00beta is not detecting my laptops modem 2.16 does 2.17 doesn't also have gateway desktop here and a BCM4212 v.90 56k modem is apparently detected in PupScan vendor:14e4 device:4212 kernel module:slamr pupdial detects the modem in neither of these PCs while the 2.16 did detect the modem in the laptop(compaq presario 1810) and gets 26kbs also there seem to be some issues with the jwm configuration wizard well now it seems to have dissapeared before i was geting a "config file corrupted" error and it was not saving certain changes and the sound is still configured wrong on the gateway <SB live> must be unmuted in alsawizard before it works then it is fine too bad flash9 causes issues also netsurf seems decent not blazing fast but decent but i have yet to get the laptops modem working in 3.00beta to try it well good night edoc
Puppy 3.00Beta worked on both of the laptops we tested today.One is a Panasonic Toughbook CF-28 and one a newer HP belong to a visiting friend. BTW: He was impressed that it handled his Broadcom internal wireless nic as well as everything else he tested. Will try some more tests of 3.00Beta and 3.00Throwback ... errr k2.6.18.1 gray
Barry,Your ps script needs a minor change. It does not work correctly with the kp utility as the full command line parameters to ps are not being passed. The line exec ps-FULL should have $@ at the end to correct this hiccup I think. Note also that ps-FULL is only needed with ver 0.3 of the kp script to display the start time column as requested by vovchik. If you use ver 0.2 it works with bustybox ps but does not have the stime column. cheers, gray J_Rey
The minimum system requirements for Flash 9 is definitely higher than
for Flash 7, so just for that simple fact it would seem best in keeping
w/ Puppy's minimalistic tendencies and stick with Macromedia Flash 7
instead of Adobe Flash 9 and let users add the latest if desired.
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ALSA drivers upgraded to 1.0.15rc2Note, I have an Acer Aspire 3681WXMi, with ALC883 sound chip. I have never been able to play DVDs on my laptop -- Gxine crashes with an Xwindows 'BadAlloc' message. I'm hoping that will get fixed one day too. Note, I haven't yet tried any other media players. Eric/caneri
Hi Barry er Igor ahem,My Pidgin is silent no cooing....Gxine has crashed for me for awhile but seems ok now for cd/dvd....but this 3.0Beta with EZ Pup is much faster and will be my work a day OS. I find rendering of web pages much better and Opera.pet works well...I missed that. Have a great time with the horses..but watch where you step. Eric/caneri Eric
my screensaver does not blank th LCD again.Eric Barry Kauler
The screensave works fine for me. Perhaps your problem has something to do with EZ Pup.jamesbond
As for the "BadAlloc" message ... for the longest time I thought the
only solution is to use Xvesa. But kirk found a solution, check it out
here: ttp://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=14690pakt
Glad my ALSA tip helped  Can you make the ALSA upgrade available for us to test? Paul sn9
It would be even better if this ALSA driver were also included:http://www.geocities.com/stssppnn/pcsp.html Barry Kauler
Pakt, yes, you set me off on the right trail. Regarding getting it to
test, well since I'm fixing lots of bugs it will be best to grab
3.00beta2, which I'll upload soon ... I start work on Monday, and I'll
probably be dead tired in the evening, but I'll see if I can get beta2
organised and uploaded Monday night (GMT+8).
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'pfix=ram' and 'zdrv' bugs fixedThere was a problem with finding the zdrv file under certain circumstances -- such as first boot after a frugal install. Fixed. Guest07
Did you know ?http://www.linuxcdshop.ca/item--1GB-USB Leon
There is nice improvement concerning frugal install with Puppy-p3.00beta.I tested frugal install with psubdir=p300b and all Puppy files stored in /p300b directory. This is the Puppy-p3.00beta boot section from my menu.lst: title Puppy-p3.00beta, idehd, p300b rootnoverify (hd0,4) kernel /p300b/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 PMEDIA=idehd psubdir=p300b initrd /p300b/initrd.gz boot At every boot Puppy offers a menu to choose which personal file to use: 0 none 1 hda5 /p200/pup_save.3fs 2 hda5 /p300b/pup_save.2fs 3 hda5 /p2171/pup_save.2fs Advantage We can choose which personal file to use at every boot. Disadvantage - When mistakenly choosing personal file from previous version then Puppy would probably upgrade it. - Searching for personal files at every boot increases boot time. Possible solution Additional parameter, something like 'psavefile' to specify which personal file to use. The menu to properly choose personal file can be created using Grub menu.lst file. Example kernel /p300b/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 PMEDIA=idehd psubdir=p300b psavefile=p300b/pup_save.2fs Jim Lyons (lyons<at>canada.com)
Recent versions do not recognize my 3com 905B network card hence I have to revert to Windows to post this message alienjeff
Guest07/other:In re: Puppy 2.17.1 USB stick, here's the domain ownership info: http://http://www.zoneedit.com/whois.ht -aj alienjeff
That should have been: Guest07/other:In re: Puppy 2.17.1 USB stick, here's the domain ownership info: http://http://www.zoneedit.com/whois.ht Sorry 'bout double post. -aj alienjeff
meh ... I give up. Remove one of the "http://" from the above URLICPUG
Leon - I'm with you all the way regarding the disadvantage of searching
all the drives for pupsave files when a psubdir is defined. However I think there is another possible solution. Surely, the major reason for psubdir is to localise the puppy files used and keep separate subdirs for separate puppy versions. If so, then when we specify a psubdir we only want to use the pupsave in that directory. My solution would be: When psubdir is specified search ONLY the psubdir directory for the pupsave file. If it is not there than act as if it is a new installation and only allow saving a pupsave file to that directory. ICPUG Robb
Stupid question: are these bug fixes for the final release or can they be had now?rarsa
Talking about probing the HDD at boot:I found a strange error booting: I had a folder with a long name with about 30 folders each with many pictures (one folder per day from my Vacations in Mexico) When booting Puppy I would receive a message that it could not load that folder and then a kernel panic. I have no idea why Puppy was trying to load that folder. Guest07
Thanks alienjeff for the link. SeaMonkey truncated it by itself. I do not know them though, but perhaps someone can tell ?BarryK
ICPUG, Yes, I think you are right. If you specify a psubdir, Puppy
should be constrained to only looking inside it for the pup_save file.
I'll make that change.Rarsa, what is the name of that folder? I think Puppy is mistaking it for a multisession storage, as Puppy looks for a folder with a name composed of the date, something like 2007-10-11-05-05 ...not exactly like that, but similar. BarryK
Leon, note that 'root=/dev/ram0' is now optional. This parameter was
required in previous puppies in which the 'initrd.gz' file contained a
ext2 filesytem. For pup 3.00alpha/beta, 'initrd.gz' is now a cpio
archive, which is just a collection of files stacked together along
with directory information, and does not contain a filesystem. So, it
cannot be mounted, and the kernel cannot mount it on a ramdisk.There is no problem with leaving that boot parameter there. The kernel detects that 'initrd.gz' is a cpio archive and simply ignores 'root=/dev/ram0' if it exists. Instead, the kernel creates what is called a 'initramfs' and extracts the contents of initrd.gz to that. One great advantage of a initramfs is that it is not a fixed size, unlike the ramdisk -- it just uses as much memory as required to hold the files, and has no maximum size limit other that the amount of free RAM. Although, while I'm explaining this, I should complete the explanation -- although a ramdisk is a fixed size, after the initrd.gz is mounted, any unused space in the ramdisk is freed -- however the expanded initrd.gz filesystem cannot be any bigger than the max size of the ramdisk as compiled into the kernel, unless the 'ramdisk=' boot parameter is used to set the initial size of the ramdisk. Anyway, that's a historical note, as I've moved to the initramfs. BarryK
Jim Lyons, how recent? What was the last version that worked?Leon
Barry,Thank you for your detailed explanation about 'root=/dev/ram0' parameter and initramfs. When talking about frugal install, if psubdir is specified and Puppy should only look inside it for the pup_save file then if only one file is found the menu should not be shown to interrupt the boot process. Puppy 2.17.1 already works that way. Leon
Barry,I have the same problem as Jim Lyons and I hadn't this problem and none of the other problem that I mention in this post with previous versions including Puppy 2.17.1 that works perfectly. 1. At first boot this message is shown on the screen: Registering unionfs 2.1.2 (for 2.6.21.7) fuse init (API version 7.8) Pausing for 60 s... After pup_save file is saved and choosed at next boot this problem doesn't appears any more. 2. D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (rev.C) - I can't establish Internet connection using Roaring Penguin PPPoE ADSL when set Ethernet Interface to 'eth0' as in previous versions. 3. Intel(r)82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller - I can't setup ALSA sound. 4. Timezone was not set to 'GMT+1' and country localization was not set to 'sl-SI' after I choosed 'slovene' keyboard at first boot. 5. The locale files can't be fetched. When 'FETCH' button is pressed this message is shown on the screen: "Sorry, but there does not appear to be a connection to the Internet. This program needs to download locale files off the Internet. Connect to the Internet then click the OKAY button..." 6. When Roaring Penguin PPPoE ADSL Start button is pressed this message is shown on the screen: "Error starting connection: /usr/sbin/pppoe-start: line 44: /bin/id: No such file or directory pppoe-start: You must be root to run this script" I saved the reports made with PupScan when using Puppy 2.17.1 and Puppy-p3.00beta so you can see the differences with TkDiff. I attached the archive to my post at: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto cb88
barry,downloaded the beta(the 2.21.7) last night and it still does not run correctly in virtualbox (just stops if there is no drive or if pfix=ram is used) I had a pup_save on one of the virtual drives and i attached it it detected it and began upgrading so i assume that it was going to work but it was taking a long time so stoped it I also ran it as a livecd on my laptop P2 300mz 64mb and it seemed pretty fast and netsurf started up ok pidgin also seemed to be working I will try to get on the net with it tonight and i let you know how that goes also geting the same thing as leon 1. At first boot this message is shown on the screen: Registering unionfs 2.1.2 (for 2.6.21.7) fuse init (API version 7.8) Pausing for 60 s... i'll have to us it some more to be of any real help though rarsa
Barry said:--> Rarsa, what is the name of that folder? ... something like 2007-10-11-05-05 . You got it. The folder was called "2007-07-10 Vacaciones Mexico" Should Puppy be looking for multisession on a HDD? GuestCan
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Font rendering bug in Abiword, etc.So, I have restored the full gconv directory. |
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