Idea for a stove windshield and stand

For many years have hiked with my great little titanium 1 litre cooking pot. However, to cook a hearty meal at end of a day of hiking, would prefer a slightly bigger size. So, have ordered a 1.3 litre pot. It is TOAKS brand, same as before, same height at 100mm, just a slightly bigger diameter:

Ordered it from here:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32854649082.html

Then had some thoughts about the stove. My favourite stove is from Speedster Backpacking Products (SBP). Fantastic little stove. Purchased in 2021 and posted about it here:

https://bkhome.org/news/202109/helena-campsite-and-speedster-stove-test.html

To digress, over the years I have tested many ultra-light camping stoves. It was a thing with me, would see something new and had to test it. Here are some posts:

https://bkhome.org/news/202106/ultralight-wood-burning-stove-for-hiking.html

https://bkhome.org/news/202107/testing-mk1-tent-and-wood-stove.html

https://bkhome.org/news/201606/packafeather-xl-stove.html

https://www.bkhome.org/news/201606/vargo-triad-stove.html

Back onto the SBP stove, it is great, but the tiny stand not so good:

Granted, it is very light, great for backpackers. However, I found it to be a bit tricky with a heavy pot on top, especially if the stand is sitting on soft ground.

Sometime hopefully not to far into the future I plan to tour with my recumbent trike, so extreme light weight is not so important. Want to keep that SBP stove, it is great, but can re-think the stand and windshield...

I'm planning to use a cheap aluminium camping pot as the windbreak and stand.

The plan is to drill a row of holes around the base of the aluminium pot, where the air gets drawn in. And remove the handles and dump the lid. The SBP stove will sit inside on the floor of the pot, and there there will be some brackets 45mm above the floor of the pot, on which the TOAKS pot can sit. Thus, the TOAKS stove will be nestled in the aluminium pot and there will be a chimney effect. The wind-shield and chimney-effect are key to the SBP stove working well.

This proposed design would be very stable, the main point of the exercise.

I have edited this post, removed some proposed details, as a bit premature. There are various ways this can be implemented, so better to do a later post with details after it is actually done.   

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What kind of people ride recumbent trikes?

Interesting question. We see these slim athletic lycra-attired riders zipping along on their racing bikes.  Do recumbent trikes attract a different sort of person?

I wanted to find out if there are any cycling groups in Australia specifically for recumbent riders, and discovered yes, in Adelaide, Brisbane and Perth. The Adelaide group looks most active; I watched a video of one of their outings:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5jQAI-qKzs

...they are not slim lycra-clad athletes!

Quoting from here:

https://laidbackcycles.com/blogs/news/who-are-recumbent-trikes-good-for

Recumbent trikes are designed for comfort. They make cycling a more relaxing activity, while also preventing pain in the back, shoulders, and wrists. Many people find they can cycle greater distances because their body is so relaxed. Because the seat is ergonomically correct, recumbent trikes keep your head in a natural, erect position. You enjoy greater visibility, a bonus when touring new areas or taking in the beauty of nature on cycling trails. Facing forward also means you are more aware of your surroundings so you are less likely to have accidents. You can sit back and enjoy a comfortable ride.

There was only one guy in that outing who had a two-wheeler recumbent, shown in the above photo -- looks dangerous. I notice a lot of them are electric-assist.  

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Outback adventure solar-powered recumbent trike

This is something that I have dreamed about for years. I have an e-bike with a 200W motor, and there are 200W solar panels available, so it seems like a good match.

It is a question of implementation. How to mount the solar panel on the bike?

For sometime I have had in mind that it would be feasible with a recumbent bike, as the rider sits very low. A canopy on top could have one or more solar panels. Surely someone, somewhere, has thought about this and actually built it?

Yes, they have. A few people have built canopies over recumbent trikes, with solar panels. I found a young couple who built a canopy over an Azub recumbent trike, about a year ago, and traveled outback Australia. Youtube video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4kDoYJ--5Y

The guy is riding a trike without suspension, while hers has full suspension, front and rear. As far as I can make out, they built a custom solar canopy and charging on an Azub trike.

I was using keywords to search in Google, and came across this, made by Motrike:

...somewhat different, but the same idea.

Azub have documented the young couple's trike adventure around Australia. Here is a blog post, Feb. 23 this year:

https://azub.eu/crossing-the-australian-continent-on-recumbent-trikes/

Real nice that it isn't required to be registered, so no expense in that regard. If the sun is shining, well, no fuel or recharging required either, just keep going all day.

Now that is something I would love to do!

EDIT 2023-05-14:
Here is a photo from 7 months ago, Motrike have modified the framing of their Trikexplor 320E-Solar trike:

...that has a 500W motor, which is not legal in Australia. They also sell a quad (4 wheel) variant, which would also be illegal in Australia (though I am not sure about all States). In Australia, an unregistered bike must have pedal-assisted motor up to 250W. Apart from starting off, it is illegal here to be cruising along solely powered by the battery -- the rider must be seen to be pedaling, even if only applying nominal extra power -- the police have actually fined people for not pedaling! The police have even been known to check the power rating on motors.

Here are some videos of the TrikExplor 320E-Solar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjHXQFAY01A

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rvkN46sodl8

And the older design:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utZ7infVLK8

It looks like it only has rear suspension. I have contacted the company and asked if it is possible to build one with full suspension, front and rear. About 3 years ago, they did have a S320E variant, electric with full suspension -- the "S" means suspension, it is not the solar model. Maybe they won't be interested in doing a one-off build, as it might require some retooling. I want to be able to ride it on rough gravel roads, and I suppose front fat tyres might be an alternative.

EDIT 2023-05-14:
The young couple started their Aussie adventure in 2021 and finished in February 2023 in Albany Western Australia, having traveled 11,000km! News report:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-21/romanian-couple-travels-recumbent-trikes-cape-york-to-albany/101995930 

EDIT 2023-05-19:

Here are some follow-up blog posts:

https://bkhome.org/news/202305/how-to-be-safe-on-a-recumbent-trike.html

https://bkhome.org/news/202305/diy-solar-e-bike-guides-and-kit.html

https://bkhome.org/news/202305/what-kind-of-people-ride-recumbent-trikes.html       

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Helena Campsite and Speedster Stove test

Last weekend, went for a hike. Usual stamping ground, Mundaring locality. Caught train then bus to the town of Mundaring, which is in the hills just outside the Perth metropolitan area. Then walked south on the Mundabiddi Trail to the Mundaring Weir Hotel -- as usual, had lunch there. Then walked approximately East, on the Bibbulmun Track, and camped overnight at the Helena Campsite. Next morning, ambled back along old fire trails, to the Mundaring town, then public transport back to Perth.

Lovely Spring weather, a couple of sunny days, though the nights were cold. I was surprised, about 20 people stayed overnight at the Helena Campsite. Some used the internal bedding provision, some, me included, pitched tents. Yeah, we did the sitting-around-the-campfire thing at night. Even somewhat-anti-social-me sat there for awhile.

Here is a photo just after 6.00am, before the sun has appeared on the horizon, but is starting to light the sky:

When I arrived at the campsite on Saturday evening, my legs were knackered, so the walking had degenerated to a slow shamble. Don't have an app for measuring distance, but it would have been about 23km.

Chatted with one young fellow who had run all the way from the Mundaring Weir Discovery Centre, he said it took him about 1 hour. The trail is up and down rocky terrain, and I took about 4 hours to walk that same path. Oh well.

Next morning, followed lovely old fire-trails, here is a photo:

Legs were knackered, but walked slowly and it was very pleasant.

Main reason for this post, is want to report on using the Speedster Stove, and the new "kitchen kit". I used it on the hike, to rehydrate a veggie & couscous packet for the evening meal. Firstly, about the stove, this is it:

https://speedsterstoves.co.uk/30ml-spill-proof-meths/alcohol-burner.html

...oh, the site is currently offline, say they are off backpacking and will be online in 4 days.

Anyway, that's what I bought, 30ml spill-proof methylated-spirit (alcohol) stove, with a matching folding stand. They hardly weigh anything. The stove burns for about 18 minutes. No priming required, immediately usable. It won't spill, just screw on the lid and fuel can be left in the stove.

I had great fun putting together the "kitchen kit". I own a Toaks 1000ml titanium pot, and was able to put everything into the pot, including the meths. Here is the pot, total weight with everything inside is 498g:

Toaks do not sell the 1000ml size any more, they do have a 900ml and a 1200ml. But there are other manufacturers, look on eBay and Aliexpress. Open the lid, everything packed neatly inside:

The bottles are each 50ml, to hold the meths. Some meths can also be held in the stove, so potentially can carry 230ml. The weight that I measured, 498g, was with all bottles filled and the stove partly filled.

The big question is, how many days will 230ml of meths last? Hold that thought, for now, presenting everything packed into the pot:

...on the left is a collapsible silicone cup, a funnel, matches, sponge, folding knife, pill-holder, titanium wind-shield, folding titanium spoon, and the Speedster Stove and folding stand.

All of these items are available on eBay and Aliexpress. The bottles are these:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001079924366.html

They allow precise application of the meths, with a narrow opening, see this photo of the 100ml bottle:

The titanium windshield is readily available also. Mine was originally 110mm wide, but I cut it down slightly so as to fit underneath the pot handles. It is extremely thin and can be cut with scissors. Weight, after cutting, is only 11g. I use a paper-clip to hold it in place around the stove.

The titanium folding spoon is Keith brand, which I chose as it is slightly wider (41mm) than other brands. Got it from Aliexpress.

Here is the stove and stand:

The windshield is absolutely essential. It shelters the flame from breezes, but also acts with the chimney-effect, drawing air from holes at the bottom and focussing the flame onto the pot. With the windshield in place and the pot on the stand, the flame is hardly seen:

If the pot is removed, the flame is quite yellow, and high:

I would never have thought that this is efficient combustion, but it is. With the pot on the stand, there is hardly any tar residue deposited on the pot, and water is boiled remarkably fast.

In fact, side-by-side tests with other meths stoves, the Speedster boils the water faster. There are some comparisons on YouTube, such as this one, using the smaller 20ml Speedster:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTRrt1OltRk

...3 minutes versus 4½ minutes, the Speedster won. Also, the Mini Trangia stove has to be primed, which wastes more fuel and time -- he did not include the priming-time in that 4½ minutes.

As can be seen in the above stove, I set it up on top of my kitchen stove (with ceiling extractor fan running). I also tested the boil time. 400ml took 6 minutes.

My "cooking" on the trail is really just heating up food then eat, such as baked beans, or boil water to rehydrate a meal. And, boil water for coffee. Prolonged cooking is not required, as if required can use my insulated pouch to complete the cooking process. I have one of these, weighs just 43g:

https://bigskyinternational.com/collections/insulite-products/products/big-sky-insulite-insulated-food-pouch-freezer-bag-cooking-cozy

So, back on that question, how many days can I hike with 230ml of meths? According to the Speedster Stoves website, the 30ml stove will burn for 18 minutes. I would probably only need to boil about 600ml per day, which will take 9 minutes -- pour some out for the coffee, the rest to rehydrate a meal. That would mean 15ml per day, so the meths will last for 15 days!

Others might have heavier usage, such as make coffee in the morning, but even if the meths lasts for only 7 days, that is pretty good.

It would be interesting to compare with a gas setup. A 230g gas canister weighs 230g plus the steel container, a small gas screw-on burner is about 75g. They would probably fit in the pot OK. All-up weight is probably going to be higher, plus those gas canisters are not environmentally-friendly.

The motivation behind checking out this meths stove, is previously had used a wood-burning stove, but there are fire restrictions for much of the year here in Western Australia. Gas and meths stoves are allowed all-year round.

EDIT:
A few years ago, I was camping on the South Coast of WA, at a CALM campsite, and was cooking in a camp kitchen. I had a Vargo alcohol stove, and was cooking on a stainless steel bench. This stove:

https://vargooutdoors.com/triad-stove.html

...it is not very stable, and I accidentally tipped it over. Meths ran over the benchtop, and the flame followed it.

The Speedster Stove, on the otherhand, really is spill proof, see this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_K9DxZ-hAk

...he is showing the carbon one, I have the "normal" one, presume that is also just as spill proof.

I was wondering what the weight would be if went for a gas canister solution, instead of a meths stove...

Looked up the calorific value (heating power) of butane gas versus ethanol, and it is about 50Mj/kg versus 29.7Mj/kg. However, that is for 100% ethanol. Methylated Spirits sold in Australia is 95% ethanol and 5% water, with a bittering agent to render it undrinkable. So meths is going to have lower calorific value -- let's estimate around 25Mj/kg.

What that means is half the weight of butane to get the same amount of heating power as meths.

Very roughly then a 100g butane gas canister will be the same heating power as my 200ml bottles of meths.

OK, a 100g gas canister from MacPac weighs 190g, costs AU$10.99. A screw-on burner is $67.46, weighs 72g.
4 litres of methylated spirits from Bunnings is $15.72, which is $1.58 for 200ml.

So from a cost point of view, the meths is far cheaper. What about weight?

My kitchen kit, without the meths parts, packed with a 100g gas canister and screw-on burner, will weigh 488g. This is the base weight of 226g, +190g, +72g

Very similar from a weight perspective. So the choice really comes down to cost and environmental impact. Well, not entirely -- if you are only going hiking for a couple of days, then only one 50ml meths bottle is needed, so can reduce the carrying weight: 498g, take off three bottles at 58g each, the total weight of the kitchen kit becomes 324g.

Another consideration: how do you know how much gas is left? You might have to carry a spare canister just in case.

Just remembered something: if you buy the Diggers brand of methylated spirits here in AU, there is a warning on the label not to use it in alcohol stoves. The reason for this is the company is covering themselves legally, see this forum thread:

https://bushwalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=37593

Interesting topic, gas versus alcohol!    

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TreeHugger Mark-3 ridgeline tieouts

Continuing the TreeHugger Mark-3 tent project, this is the previous post:

https://bkhome.org/news/202108/treehugger-mark-3-tent-hem-tie-outs.html

As reported, I wasn't happy with how the tie-outs were made. The tie-outs are now glued instead of sewed, and I used a simple rectangle, scrunched-up where passes through the o-ring. See photos in previous post.

At each end of the ridgeline, there will be tie-outs, and I decided to experiment with some kind of more sophisticated design, that spreads the stresses from the tie-out cable to the tents, the forces distributed evenly onto the tent.

I experimented with folding a piece of paper, and this is the design finally used. Firstly, folded the paper in half, lengthwise:

Then folded each end, so as to get "wings":

Then folded the middle, both sides, inward to the centre:

Another view showing the inward-folds:

Showing the wings spread out:

That looked interesting, and I could see how the forces are spread out at the wings. The important point is that the ripstop fabric has least stretch when the fabric squares are not pulled diagonally, which this wing design achieves.

I am not claiming this to be a fantastic design, just something to try.

Doing this with the silnylon though, is tricky, as it won't fold, is very soft and slippery. I managed, by using clips to hold in place:

These clips are used in sewing, readily available via eBay, Aliexpress and Amazon. My local Spotlight store also has them, but very expensive. Then the two inward-folds, glued:

Then, glueing onto the tent was messy, not at all neat like that last paper photo. From the experience, I have some thoughts how folding and glueing can be improved ...next time.

I also glued a silicone cap underneath in the tail-end, for the carbon-fibre tube to slot into. See Mark-1 construction for details.

So, now have a tent ready to test. Not complete, as plan to construct an inner mesh tent, but can put it up to see if it looks OK. Keeping a tally of the weight, it is now 286g, the ridgeline tie-outs and tail-end cap have added 8g.

Good news, my cheap Kmart digital scale is accurate. I purchased a set of 7 weights, totalling 500g, and found the scale to be spot-on.     

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TreeHugger Mark-3 tent hem tie-outs

Continuing the TreeHugger Mark-3 tent project, this was the previous blog post:

https://bkhome.org/news/202108/glued-ridgeline-of-treehugger-mark-3.html

For the Mark-1 tarp, I sewed the tie-outs, so it wasn't an entirely glued tarp/tent. This time, decided to attempt a totally-glued tent...

For the tie-outs, have not used webbing, instead have folded silnylon, the same fabric used for the tent. I am not an Origami Master, and only did something very basic. Just cut rectangles 24x6cm and threaded an o-ring onto them, like this:

...that is, spread silicone sealant on both sides of the rectangle-piece, around the middle, then threaded the o-ring, then folded the rectangle in half, then scrunched up the fabric near the o-ring and wrapped a strip of cling-wrap. Six with o-ring, the seventh has a hook.

The o-rings are silicone, 28mm OD and 5mm thick, these:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001460667252.html

The hook is 3.6cm size, these:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001868137584.html

Looking at my notes, I actually bought the hooks from Amazon, the 3.6cm from here:

https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B08P14TWG1

I glued each tie-out onto the tent like this, a flap glued on each side of the tent:

...which looks OK, but actually is not so good, as when pulled on, the stresses will be at the sides. This may have a tendency to peal off the glued join.

An Origami Master could probably have told me how the fabric could have been folded such that stress is spread evenly to the tent.

Anyway, will see how it holds up. If do decide to do something different, easy enough to cut off the tie-outs and glue something else on.

I am recording the weight at each step of the Mark-3 project. In the last blog post, after having glued the ridgeline, the weight was 251g. Now, having glued on the hem tie-outs, the weight is now 278g, an increase of 27g. Still looking good!   

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Glued ridgeline of TreeHugger Mark-3

Continuing the Mark-3 glued-tent project, here is the previous post:

https://bkhome.org/news/202108/finished-glueing-hems-for-treehugger-mark-3-tent.html

Next-up is to glue the ridgeline of the tent. This joins the two pieces, with 2cm overlap. That 2cm is nominal. I used a spreader tool, an approximately 14cm long aluminium channel, 2cm outside-width with 1.5mm wall thickness:

...so only spreads the sealant as a thin film 1.7cm wide. So I overlap the two pieces of silnylon a tad under 2cm. Anyway, when the seam roller is run over the join, the sealant spreads a little bit.

The ridgeline is curved, so the two pieces need to be arranged so that the ridgelines are straight, with 2cm overlap. So when I glue, both pieces will already be in place, and the top piece will just flop down into the required position. I used concrete blocks to hold the ends firmly in place:

Glued along the ridgeline, just doing about 20cm at a time, and it came together OK. One point to note, I made chalk marks about 20cm apart beforehand, as a guide to how far to glue. So, apply glue, spread, let the top piece fall onto the bottom piece. There was of course a chalkline running the entire length of the bottom piece, 2cm from the edge.

Because of those blocks on each end, had to wait until the ridgeline glue had cured, then glued the ends.

An important detail: in the above photo, you can see that I used a wood plank. What I also did was place cling-wrap the full length. This is because some sealant will bleed out of the overlap underneath. Silicone sealant does not stick to cling-wrap.

Now for some advice on what not to do...

I thought that it would make glueing easier if I constructed a frame for the tail end, this thing:

The tail-end of the tent has two flaps that have to be glued together, which I did, using the cardboard-box-thing to hold everything in place:

So far, ok, then cutout the reinforcing for the tail-end:

And glued it on:

...which is where things went a bit wrong. Ended up with some wrinkles, on both sides.

Glueing on the reinforcing pieces is tricky enough when doing it on a flat horizontal surface. The cardboard-box-thing made it very difficult.

So, if I had to do it again, I would glue on a flat horizontal surface. Glueing the two end-flaps together could have been left to last. Lesson learned.

At the high-end of the ridgeline, glued another piece of reinforcing:

I have been keeping a tally of the weight as the project progressed. The previous weight, having glued the hems and reinforcing on the hems, is 229gm.

I filed the 2cm spreader tool so as to spread a slightly thicker film of glue, compared with the 1.5cm spreader used for the hems. I reasoned that the ridgeline is going to be subject to most stress, so be generous with the glueing.

The weight, having glued the ridgeline and reinforcing on each end, is now 251g, up by 22g.

The next step will be to attach the tie-out webbing. However, instead of sewing on webbing as I did for Mark-1, I am thinking of going for an entirely glued tent, no sewing at all. Up until now, I thought that the high stresses at the webbing would require sewing, but rethinking it... anyway, stay tuned.   

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Finished glueing hems for TreeHugger Mark-3 tent

Continuing the Mark-3 project, this is the previous blog post:

https://bkhome.org/news/202108/glueing-hems-for-treehugger-mark-3-tent.html

I have glued the hems on both pieces of silnylon. This is the smaller piece:

...the hems are folded on what will be the inside of the tent. In the above photo, you can see 3 sides have hems. Starting from the left, bottom of tail-end flap, bottom of side of tent, and the edge rising to the peak at the high-end. Here is the other, larger, piece:

...this has a flap at the high-end, for enclosing the tent. For this piece, there are 4 hems. Starting from left, the edge of the flap, the bottom of the flap, the bottom of the side of tent, and bottom of the tail-end flap.

I am recording the weight as each step is completed. As reported in the previous blog post, the weight of the fabric, the 2 pieces, is 182g. With the glued hems, the weight is now 217g. An increase of 29g.

The next step was to glue reinforcing where tie-outs are going to be sewed on. I used two bowls, 15.2cm diameter and 20.6cm diameter, as templates to cut out circles. Here is the reinforcing glued onto the small piece:

...also glued onto what will become the inside of the tent. I used the larger diameter reinforcing at the corners, the smaller in the middle.

The larger piece has 4 reinforcings, due to the flap at the high-end.

I have posted how to glue and apply the pieces of reinforcing, in the Mark-1 instructions. It is tricky, to not end up with wrinkles. I extrude parallel beads of sealant onto the piece of reinforcing, then spread it with a finger (wearing gloves), then dip the fingers into the mineral turpentine to remove stickiness, then lift up the reinforcing and lower it in place, trying to get it exactly in place, so don't have to push it around. If some pushing around is required, it is necessary to check that wrinkles have not developed on the other side.

The weight has now climbed to 229g, a jump of 12g.

The next step will be to glue the ridgeline, perhaps tomorrow.

Note, I have appended to this blog post, a speculation why some silnylon has poor peel strength:

https://bkhome.org/news/202108/testing-peel-strength-of-10d-orange-silnylon.html      

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